Which of the following do you recommend for anti-virus ware?

Discussion in 'Virus Information' started by rubyjack, Oct 26, 2007.

  1. rubyjack

    Virus Guy Guest

    Yup.

    Whatcha gonna do about it?
     
    Virus Guy, Oct 29, 2007
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  2. rubyjack

    Virus Guy Guest

    When there are countless posts asking "what's the best AV" or "how
    does this av compare to that av", I never see anyone responding with:

    - malware can turn off your AV, so look for AV that can resist

    - detection isin't removal. Look for AV that can remove what it
    detects

    - these days, detection means something got onto your system
    a week ago. Do other things like update your Java JRE, use
    a hosts file, use adaware/spybot/spyware blaster (innoculate
    your browser), put more faith in a registry monitoring program
    than in an AV program


    Go ahead and question that ^^^^^^
     
    Virus Guy, Oct 29, 2007
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  3. We now know you are an admitted thief and anything you say should be
    treated as anything else said by any common thief, ignored as it
    cannot be trusted.
    What else do you steal and what other ways are you dishonest?
    It is extremely unlikely stealing software is the extent of your
    dishonest activity.
    Employers and others you associate probably miss what you have stolen
    from them.
    Since it is the nature of a thief...
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Oct 29, 2007
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  4. There is really nothing to question.
    You are an admitted thief.
    EVERYTHING you say should be treated as a lie since that is the nature
    of thieves.
    Lying is often necessary to conceal the true intentions.
    With most, their word has value, your has NONE.
    You steal without regard.
    You have stolen from every honest person who pays for the products you
    steal since you have decided others subsidize your own unethical
    behavior.
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Oct 29, 2007
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  5. "And being "unethical" is not the same as being unknowledgeable"
    You have shown lack knowledge as well:
    "What's a CAL?"

    So now by your own admission, you are unethical and unknowledgeable.
    You have NOTHING.
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Oct 29, 2007
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  6. rubyjack

    Virus Guy Guest

    Go blow it out your ass.
     
    Virus Guy, Oct 30, 2007
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  7. Typical and expected of the dishonest when they are shown the truth..
     
    Jupiter Jones [MVP], Oct 30, 2007
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  8. rubyjack

    Dustin Cook Guest

    polymorphic? Erm....
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymorphic_code

    Storm doesn't fit the bill for Polymorphic. It makes no effort to alter
    it's own code once present on your machine.
    Uhh, no. I develop software on this machine and I need to keep a constant
    environment; as such, I don't go for the newest patch right away. In
    fact, this machine is still using sp1, and isn't even allowed to let me
    know about new patches, let alone download them. Why am I not worried you
    might ask? I'm behind a real firewall and I routinely practice safe hex.





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    Dustin Cook, Oct 30, 2007
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  9. rubyjack

    Dustin Cook Guest

    And this isn't new either. :) Various viruses/worms have long since
    targetted av applications to disable them. lol.

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    Dustin Cook, Oct 30, 2007
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  10. rubyjack

    Dustin Cook Guest

    Storm scares the crap out of you doesn't it? Heh. Really man, that worm
    (well, trojan really, but what the hell) isn't doing anything new. :)
    It's just doing many old tricks at once, and doing a fine job of it as
    well.

    I think the writeups are scaring people tho. Storm isn't new, others have
    come long before it and did the same stuff.
    Are you paid to run warez software on a business environment or what?




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    Dustin Cook, Oct 30, 2007
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  11. rubyjack

    Dustin Cook Guest

    What an excellent method of gaining assistance here and likely elsewhere.
    No wonder Storm scares you. I bet your afraid of many things. :)


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    Dustin Cook, Oct 30, 2007
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  12. rubyjack

    kurt wismer Guest

    server-side polymorphism is not the same as the polymorphism you used to
    know...
    (http://anti-virus-rants.blogspot.com/2007/08/what-is-server-side-polymorphism.html)
     
    kurt wismer, Oct 31, 2007
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  13. rubyjack

    Dustin Cook Guest

    You've lost me kurt.. What are you calling server side polymorphism?


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    Dustin Cook, Oct 31, 2007
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  14. rubyjack

    Luke Guest

    Go for Kasperspy... nice and easy. Anti Spam. Virus. Malware. Anti Spy. Anti
    Hacker and Proactive Defence.
    Plus another good thing is its not a memory hog. 0-1% at all times... during
    scans its about 5% of CPU. It does updates everyhour to make sure your up to
    date. And you dont need to do it , automatic and even when it updates it
    takes minutes! No restart or anything. When i had norton i had 5 different
    infections (viruses, Adware and trojans). suposidly norton "Deleted" them...
    lol. When i got kasperspy it quarintined them all :) . And no i didnt
    quarintime them in norton... before you say thats why they were there.

    PS: kasperspy 7 is out now. And its easy to get around and it looks much
    nicer than before! SUPER SMILEY :)

    luke
     
    Luke, Oct 31, 2007
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  15. rubyjack

    kurt wismer Guest

    hmmm... the wording of your question makes what you're having difficulty
    with seem a little ambiguous to me...

    do you mean you don't understand my explanation of what server-side
    polymorphism is (seems unlikely, considering your pedigree) or is it
    rather that you don't understand why i think that server-side
    polymorphism was the type of polymorphism in question when virus guy
    referred to storm as a polymorphic threat (many sources make reference
    to it's use of server-side polymorphism)?
     
    kurt wismer, Nov 1, 2007
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  16. rubyjack

    Dustin Cook Guest

    The latter, threw me for a loop. I hadn't thought of polymorphism from
    the server side. I should get outside more :)


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    Dustin Cook, Nov 1, 2007
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  17. rubyjack

    Kayman Guest

    Yeah, right!

    http://forum.kaspersky.com/index.php?s=cad8c5e5fe1e837e5e82ead4e1719018&showtopic=14995&st=500

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=chkdsk+problem++kaspersky&spell=1
     
    Kayman, Nov 2, 2007
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  18. rubyjack

    RJK Guest

    ....I always suspected that Kaspersky was a heap of crap !

    regards, Richard
     
    RJK, Nov 2, 2007
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  19. rubyjack

    Kayman Guest

    The protection provided by KAV seems excellent, but their handling of a
    long-running problem with CHKDSK has undermined the faith of many users in
    the company.

    This might be the reason as to why AOL dropped Kaspersky?????

    In Kaspersky forum people are divided by this issue but I sense that
    discomfort even with senior moderators... - as no definite answer/fix is
    offered.

    It all could be FUD though... :)
     
    Kayman, Nov 2, 2007
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  20. rubyjack

    Sandy Mann Guest

    Off topic but your response just brought it to mind:

    An English lecturer was explaining to the students that in English, a double
    negative is actually a positive. There are also some languages where a
    double negative is still a negative but there are no languages in the world
    where a double positive is a negative. From the back of the hall she heard,
    "Yeah, right!!
     
    Sandy Mann, Nov 2, 2007
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