Where can I get all XP patches in one download

Discussion in 'Virus Information' started by Amit, Sep 17, 2006.

  1. Amit

    Amit Guest

    Hi all,

    I was wondering if it is possible to get all the Windows XP patches in
    one download. Has anybody put it as a compressed version somewhere.
    Please let me know as it would save a lot of time.

    Thanks,

    Amit
     
    Amit, Sep 17, 2006
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    antioch Guest

    Hi Amit
    1. Your Q would fair better in Win XP general, basic or newusers.
    This is security/virus.
    2. Which set of updates do you want - after SP1 there is SP2 - after SP2
    there are some 50 or 60 or more individual updates according to your system
    set-up.
    3. If it is the post SP2 you want, then there is NO SP3 yet - it might come
    but not this side of Xmas.
    4. There may be sites where you can get a 'block' download but it is always
    recommended that you get security/critical updates from MS only.
    5. If it is post SP2, I would recommend you look through the windowsupdates
    group as well to see what problem and fixes there are - and there have been
    a few over the last two months.
    Without knowing which updates you want - cant help further.
    As suggested above, post in a more appropriate group with the info required
    so that you can get the advice.
    Rgds
    Antioch
     
    antioch, Sep 17, 2006
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    Dan Guest

    According to Microsoft site, the Windows XP Service Pack 3 is scheduled
    for the middle of 2007. I still wonder if Vista will make the November
    and January deadlines.
     
    Dan, Sep 17, 2006
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  4. No , you can't . Windows Update is a more complex system . To get the updates
    , your computer will be checked if Windows is genuie , then it will check
    what exactly you need of and than it will install them . It is complex
    because you can't just download them ,some new updates include all updates
    and thus even an expert can't know what exactly your PC needs .
     
    =?Utf-8?B?UGFuZGFfbWFu?=, Sep 17, 2006
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  5. Amit

    antioch Guest

    Yep - and according to MS when was Vista due???????????
    Antioch
     
    antioch, Sep 17, 2006
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    Robert Moir Guest

    Funny how Apple seem to manage to release roll-up updates for their OS
    every couple of months, isn't it?

    To be honest, this situation is just another case where Microsoft doesn't
    "Get It".

    If you're serious about helping your customers secure their computers, you
    try to make it as easy as possible for them to do so. And it wouldn't be
    very difficult to provide roll-ups of every fix every couple of months;
    even having to install (say) 6 roll-up update packs instead of 60-odd post
    SP2 hotfixes would improve the eXPerience of buying a new Windows XP
    machine and plugging it into the Internet greatly.
     
    Robert Moir, Sep 17, 2006
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  7. Amit

    antioch Guest

    OK Robert - but do you have to keep reminding us Windows users?????
    Those who have to go through the SP2 update followed by the other 50-60
    add-ons would love to have an SP3.
    It might cause less problems then have been experienced over the last couple
    of months. I cannot believe that these troubles are mainly caused by what
    other progs and soft people have on their computers.
    Though the idea of leaving security/critical patches for a longer period I
    would have thought is not good - would that not leave your computer in a
    vulnerable position. Do Apple release as and when? or only every couple of
    months.
    From a personal position, I would like to see them issued as and when they
    are ready.
    Windowsupdates group has got to be the most depressing group to read these
    days - and someone from MS actually came into the group this week to help.
    Shame it does not happen more often.
    Take care
    Rgds
    Antioch
     
    antioch, Sep 17, 2006
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    p00lb0y Guest

    After you read the other posts and acknowledge the source and decide to
    trust [it], you may wish to consider trying the offering at www dot
    autopatcher dot com. It really does cut down on the number of reboots
    and allows you to patch a PC up a priori to exposing the PC to the Internet.

    PB
     
    p00lb0y, Sep 17, 2006
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  9. Amit

    Robert Moir Guest

    I'm one too. Check the headers... FWIW my MacBook is currently booted into
    Vista. I support both operating systems for a living and I know where both
    of them have buried skeletons.
    I'd rather they took their time and got that right - providing they
    released a 'roll-up' of fixes, or two, in the meantime.
    Apple release hotfixes 'as and when', and then roll things up every couple
    of months. Actually, this particular issue with the number of patches
    aside, Microsoft actually have a far more mature approach to dealing with
    security issues and far more mature patching tools, imho.
    That's why I mention where Apple are doing it better - someone in the
    right place might decide to help by fixing the download process. I've fed
    back to Apple about the things Microsoft do better, too.

    --
     
    Robert Moir, Sep 17, 2006
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  10. Amit

    antioch Guest

    Well, Rob, we can only hope MS improve their updating methods, because at
    the moment it seems to be getting ridiculous. I have only used XP for the
    last 2 yrs and a bit - never had any trouble until April - since then I have
    had at least one problem every month.
    I was surprised to read in the updates that there appears to no longer be
    the contact between your fellow MVP's and people at MS.
    Then, there was a post directly from an MS person giving a fix for one of
    the most annoying update problems.
    That to my mind, this is an area in which I would welcome an increase in
    mutual co-operation.
    Rgds
    Antioch
     
    antioch, Sep 17, 2006
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    Katom Guest

    http://www.autopatcher.com/index.html

    Have fun.
     
    Katom, Sep 18, 2006
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  12. Amit

    Guest Guest

    Yes, of course! Just go to shavlik.com. You will need to install
    their software, and then you can have it scan and set it to download
    all the patches.

    I did it. On dialup, it only took about 4 hours.

    Shavlik created the Baseline Analysis tool for Microsoft, and offers
    corporate update solutions. He has recently offered his program for
    free to users with under 10 computers.

    I like it. It's a fine alternative to Windows Update. And there's no
    WGA -- "Prove you are not a thief!" or erroneous "invalid software"
    messages. :)

    Awaiting your responses with baited breath, I remain, yours truly,
    <*(((>< ~~~
    ~~~~~~~~~~~
     
    Guest, Sep 18, 2006
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  13. Amit

    Guest Guest

    Panda Man,
    Bad Panda! Bad Bad!
    You know very well that Windows Update is not the only place
    to get MS updates!
    Try Shavlik.com. I love it!

    Awaiting your responses with baited breath, I remain, yours truly,
    <*(((>< ~~~
    ~~~~~~~~~~~
     
    Guest, Sep 18, 2006
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    Dan Guest

    I see your point. <smile>
     
    Dan, Sep 18, 2006
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    Dan Guest

    I just installed Windows Vista, RC1 on my computer. It is now a
    tri-boot machine with 98SE (Second Edition), XP Professional, and
    Windows Vista Ultimate. 98SE is on a Fat32 hard drive compared to
    Windows XP and Vista which are on the second hard drive in two
    partitions. The graphics on Vista with the Aero technology are really
    sweet. I have so far just adjusted the graphics settings but look
    forward to seeing if Windows Vista is really secure. What are your
    impressions so far Robert of Vista in regards to security and I just
    installed Boot It NG today and followed it by Windows Vista Ultimate.
     
    Dan, Sep 18, 2006
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  16. Amit

    Amit Guest

    Thanks a lot everybody,

    So the general consensus is that there is no consolidated patch until
    MS releases SP3. Till then, either one has to allow MS's automatic
    update to have its way or use shavalik...

    My reason for asking this question was also the fact that I wanted to
    cut down on the time I would have to spend if my XP crashes and I have
    to reload it...in that case, all the security updates have to be
    applied again.

    Anyway, thanks for the responses. I am wiser now :)

    Regards,

    Amit
     
    Amit, Sep 18, 2006
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  17. Dial-up truly sucks, especially when you're charged per second to make
    calls to your nearest ISP (as our telco does).
    MS's automatic update is all very well if you are on broadband, but
    it's impractical for dial-up users (especially if it costs money to
    stay online). Intermittent Internet access is a mitigator against
    direct network attack, but does nothing to reduce risks from
    store-and-forward attacks (email, internal surfaces exposed when
    handling content, etc.) so this matters.

    A monthly update CD sent by the local MS distie would be a good way to
    overcome this - or at the very least, such CDs could be distributed to
    field techs (who don't always have broadband either).

    In the absence of this, the local "warez bunny" becomes the usual
    source of updates for dial-up victims, with all the risk that implies.


    Speaking of risk; can you imagine how effective malware distribution
    would be, if it managed to patch in to "updates"?

    I expect automatic updates are hardened against this, starting from
    bypassing DNS to reach the MS site directly. I'm not sure whether
    Shavik can match this? The risk may be low while Shavik's channel is
    uncommonly used, but if it were to become really popular, it may
    attract the attention of malware coders and distributors.


    Drugs are usually safe. Inject? (Y/n)
     
    cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user), Sep 18, 2006
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    Dan Guest

    Nice points as usual, Chris and I certainly am no fan of slow dial-up.
    It is nicer than not having Internet at all but definitely not great.
    Actually, I also prefer a cable connection to DSL because DSL always
    seemed to time out for me and cable does not seem to have this problem.
    Anyway, I am currently beginning testing on Windows Vista Ultimate for
    security issues. Do you have any suggestions about hardening security
    in Windows Vista that you want me to pass on to Microsoft or do they
    know your ideas already. <grin>
     
    Dan, Sep 18, 2006
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    Robert Moir Guest

    It could be a lot better. I think the Microsoft focus is on update for
    Vista, and WSUS / SMS for corporate customers. Which suits me fine being
    one of the latter myself, but there sure are a lot of home users dangling
    in the breeze.
     
    Robert Moir, Sep 18, 2006
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  20. Amit

    Robert Moir Guest

    I'm really not that excited by Vista in terms of desktop experience. It
    looks nice and all, don't get me wrong, but I'm just not engaged by it.
    It's a big improvement on XP, that's for sure. How well it stands up in
    the future, and whether or not backward compatability will cripple that
    security standpoint remains to be seen.
     
    Robert Moir, Sep 18, 2006
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