What is The best Firewall and Anti-Virus Program?

Discussion in 'Security Software' started by none, Feb 11, 2005.

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    none Guest

    I have done much research on-line, forums and such and i have always come
    back with the same answer: it depends on what your looking for.
    my question is, what is the best firewall? when i say best i mean it blocks
    trojans, hides my computer from hackers. All that good stuff. I know that
    there is no program that can do this but what program comes closest. money is
    no option. I currently use ZoneAlarm Pro
    my second question is basically the same. What is the best ant-virus
    software? what offers the most protection?
    i currently use Nortan Antivirus 2003
    none, Feb 11, 2005
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    Rowdy Yates Guest

    well... the best thing to have is a dedicated machine acting as a
    firewall between you and the internet that can see all traffic in as many
    network OSI layers as possible. preferably a unix variant such as linux
    or a BDS. remember, when you are on a windows machine - you are
    essensially blind to certain types of traffic. there is no way around it.

    try www.smoothwall.org. very easy to work with.

    you also want a software firewall product running on the windows machine,
    mostly to catch unauthorized stuff trying to connect out. zone it fine, i
    know ppl who swear by outpost or kerio. i use sygate. i havent done
    analysis enough to tell you which one is best. they are probably all very
    similar. but you definatly want to run one of them and make sure you
    don't click allow to every window it pops up. READ WHAT IT SAYS AND WHAT

    Rowdy Yates, MCNGP #39
    "Shhhh... Do you smell that? I think is't Albanian Goat Smegma!"
    Rowdy Yates, Feb 11, 2005
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    Galen Guest

    I can't tell you what is the best. I can only tell you what I've read from
    independent sources and from my experiences. Search for "independant
    ************* testing" and change ****** to your product/service of choice
    for the same results that I get. Personally I use Outpost Personal Firewall
    (but most any long-term visitor of these groups will tell you I'm biased
    though they probably wouldn't argue with my choices) and Kaspersky. Once in
    a while I even go so far as to use Kaspersky Anti-Hacker or to recommend it
    to users because of it's effectiveness and ease of use. Word to the wise? It
    doesn't support fast user switching very well with the versions I've tested
    but that's not nessesarily a problem. Outpost, on the other hand, with the
    professional version, does support that and (I believe) ICS if you're
    interested. More can be learned from the help/information offered at their
    respective sites. Using this combination I can honestly tell you I've never
    had a problem that wasn't able to be dealt with easily and effectively but
    another point is security is a process (or even a state of mind) and is not
    a program or hardware device.


    "My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me
    the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am
    in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial
    stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for
    mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes
    Galen, Feb 11, 2005
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    none Guest

    what about antiviris software? is nortan good? becuase i know alot of people
    who hate nortan.
    none, Feb 11, 2005
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    Guest Guest

    What kind of car do you drive?

    Without even knowing, I know a lot of people who hate that particular
    manufacturer? Does that make it a bad car? Only *you* can answer that
    question. Are you happy with it?

    Same thing with AV software. You can take the time to educate yourself to
    make an informed decision or you can take a chance with one and see how it
    works out. Many companies have trial periods before you have to open your

    The main thing is that you do get some AV software AND keep it updated. Any
    one of the reputable companies, and it sounds like you are familiar enough
    with the usual ones, is fine. Just get something.

    Guest, Feb 11, 2005
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    Galen Guest

    Pete answered it all for me. He really did. I use KAV but I'm biased. I've
    heard GREAT reports about a freeware application or two. I know a few people
    who swear by them and, given their reputation, I don't doubt them at all.
    It's up to you but the important part is keeping your definitions up to
    date. That, like most applications, is the most important thing.


    "My mind rebels at stagnation. Give me problems, give me work, give me
    the most abstruse cryptogram or the most intricate analysis, and I am
    in my own proper atmosphere. I can dispense then with artificial
    stimulants. But I abhor the dull routine of existence. I crave for
    mental exaltation." -- Sherlock Holmes
    Galen, Feb 12, 2005
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    Robert Moir Guest

    There's a reason that is the answer you keep getting. It is the correct
    I don't personally like Nrotten Virus, and I regard any "firewall" that runs
    as a program on the system its trying to protect as a toy. (But ZA Pro is
    fair, for a toy, I'll grant it that much.)

    I don't think you'll like my answers. But as I said at the top, there is a
    reason that "It depends" is the answer you keep getting.

    Robert Moir, Feb 12, 2005
  8. For the desktop, ANY of the current desktop firewall and Intrusion Prevention
    vendors would work for you.

    The best way to check is to scan yourself from the Net, try this link:

    It will scan your machine for open and stealthed ports.

    From what you mentioned, your mostly worried about ingress attacks.

    ALTHOUGH, I would worry about both ingress and egress attacks, and then the
    number of "the best firewalls" drops off.

    Manyn products, including XP SP2's firewall, only protect ingress attacks.

    To defend against, Virus, spyware, adware, and other malware, you need a
    firewall that has bidirectional filtering.

    As for the best A/V, I've run the following:
    CA eTrust (weak detection)
    Symantec (resource hog)
    TrendMicro (very fast but boot check security questionable)
    McAfee (excellent for the Enterprise, not as efficient as TrendMicro)
    Panda (more effective for SOHO/SMB as a standalone, not as efficient as

    For quickest updates, least computer processing overhead, best scan
    detection, and most effective real-time protection, TrendMicro is the best.

    For the Enterprise, McAfee and Symantec are the leaders for a reason. They
    are more well-suited to be Enterprised-managed.

    There are a bunch of bakeoffs and comparisons that skew who's the "best." I
    saw get an eval of each and see for yourself.

    Here's a recent one from CERN
    Phil Agcaoili, Feb 13, 2005
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