Upgarde to Norton 360 FROM NIS 2004 can Home XP handle it ?

Discussion in 'Computer Security' started by Norton Ted II, Sep 26, 2009.

  1. Hi all !
    I'm STILL running Norton Internet Security 2004. I haven't updated it in 2
    years! Still seems to work! I have and run Ad Aware, Reg Cure, Malware Bytes.
    My question IS!
    I'm running XP Home with SP 3, I have only 1 meg a ram. Plenty of room on my
    HD. I have a Dell Dimention 2400, 5 years old, YEP 5 !
    I have the opertunity to upgarde to Norton 360. My buddy has the keycode for
    three systems, I can use 1. My current NIS uses 29 Meg of space on my HD.
    Norton 360 uses 140 Meg. YES it does alot more things! But will it BOG down
    the system I have! Will it run slower than my current NIS 2004??

    Many thanks, Ted
     
    Norton Ted II, Sep 26, 2009
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  2. My suggestion:
    Get rid of all Norton Products and any 'all-in-one' products (Not just from
    norton - but any.) They are mostly produced by AntiVirus vendors trying to
    start into a different path which they are still not very good at (after all
    this time - IMO.) They use more resources than is necessary to give a
    normal home user the protection they need.

    In other words - remove NIS, do not install Norton 360 and just get an
    antivirus solution like Avira AntiVirus, Avast! AntiVirus or AVG - or if you
    are willing to spend a few bucks - eSet NOD32. Use the built in Windows XP
    Firewall. Scan - on occassion - with the freeware antispyware applications:
    SuperAntiSpyware and MalwareBytes. (No need to have them running resident.)

    In other words your system would run best and still be sufficiently
    protected if you had a decent AV only solution that stayed up to date
    (freeware is fine), the Windows XP firewall enabled and as few exceptions as
    plausible in your situation, a high-speed Internet NAT router (so you get
    IPs on the machine itself like 192.168.xxx.xxx) with a good password and if
    it has wireless - using WPA2. After that - it is merely maintenance like
    consistent periodic backups, periodic malware scans with freeware
    applications, CHKDSK, defragmentation and making sure you uninstall anything
    you don't use and keep up to date everything you do use.

    You may want to cleanup the machine a bit - make sure it is updated, clean
    and really ready for any changes - also a really good backup of at least
    your important stuff (documents, spreadsheets, pictures, music, Internet
    bookmarks/favorites, contacts, emails, etc) is a great idea before removing
    NIS - as Norton has a bad habit of keeping its claws in your machine and
    even 'ruining' it if you uninstall the product. In other words - horrible
    uninstall routines, to say the least.

    Follow these steps exactly - even if you already have done some of them
    (which is a good thing!)...

    Fix your file/registry permissions...

    Ignore the title and follow the sub-section under "Advanced Troubleshooting"
    titled, "Method 1: Reset the registry and the file permissions"
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949377
    *will take time
    (** Ignore the last step - you said you have SP3 installed.)

    Reboot and ...

    Download/install this:
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301

    After installing, do the following:

    Start button --> RUN --> type in:
    "%ProgramFiles%\Windows Installer Clean Up\msizap.exe" g!
    --> Click OK.
    (The quotation marks and percentage signs and spacing should be exact.)

    Download, install, run, update and perform a full scan (separately) with the
    following two applications (freeware versions are the ones to use for this):

    SuperAntiSpyware
    http://www.superantispyware.com/

    MalwareBytes
    http://www.malwarebytes.com/

    After performing a full scan with one and then the other and removing
    whatever they both find completely, you may uninstall these products,
    if you wish. Or leave them installed. Or uninstall them and download
    and install the latest versions when you feel you need them.

    Download and run the MSRT manually:
    http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx

    Reboot.

    CHKDSK
    How to scan your disks for errors
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265
    * will take time and a reboot

    Defragment
    How to Defragment your hard drives
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314848
    * will take time

    Ensure your hardware drivers are up to date (from the hardware
    manufacturer's respective web pages.) Never get hardware drivers
    for hardware that was not created/sold by Microsoft from Microsoft.
    Installing the latest drivers may have you rebooting several times,
    which is fine - but after you are sure you are done - still...

    Reboot.

    Download/Install the latest Windows Installer (for your OS):
    ( Windows XP 32-bit : WindowsXP-KB942288-v3-x86.exe )
    http://www.microsoft.com/downloadS/details.aspx?familyid=5A58B56F-60B6-4412-95B9-54D056D6F9F4&displaylang=en

    Reboot and...

    Download the latest version of the Windows Update agent from here (x86):
    http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=91237
    .... and save it to the root of your C:\ drive. After saving it to the root
    of the C:\ drive, do the following:

    Close all Internet Explorer windows and other applications.

    Start button --> RUN and type in:
    %SystemDrive%\windowsupdateagent30-x86.exe /WUFORCE
    --> Click OK.

    (If asked, select "Run.) --> Click on NEXT --> Select "I agree" and click on
    NEXT --> When it finishes installing, click on "Finish"...

    Reboot.

    Then follow the instructions here:

    How do I reset Windows Update components?
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058

    Reboot.

    Log on as an user with administrative rights and open Internet Explorer
    and visit http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ and select to do a
    CUSTOM scan...

    Every time you are about to click on something while at these web pages -
    first press and hold down the CTRL key while you click on it. You can
    release the CTRL key after clicking each time.

    Once the scan is done, select just _ONE_ of the high priority updates
    (deselect any others) and install it.

    Reboot again.

    If it did work - try the web page again - selecting no more than 3-5 at a
    time. Rebooting as needed.

    The Optional Software updates are generally safe - although I recommend
    against the "Windows Search" one and any of the "Office Live" ones or
    "Windows Live" ones for now. I would completely avoid the
    Optional Hardware updates. Also - I do not see any urgent need to install
    Internet Explorer 8 at this time.

    Seriously - do all that. This is like antibiotics - don't skip a single
    step, don't quit because you think things will be okay now - go through
    until the end, until you have done everything given in the order given. If
    you have a problem with a step come ask and let someone here get you
    through that step. If you don't understand how to do a step, come back and
    ask here about that step and let someone walk you through it.

    In any case - no matter what - when you are done doing whatever you decide
    to do - please - come back here and let everyone know what you did and
    how things turned out.
     
    Shenan Stanley, Sep 26, 2009
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  3. Is your NIS 2004 subscription current or has it expired?

    I would strongly recommend that you (1) uninstall NIS 2004, LiveUpdate, and
    anything named Norton via Add/Remove Programs and then (2) download/run the
    Norton Removal Tool before (3) installing N360 or any other anti-virus
    application/security suite.

    Norton Removal Tool
    http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT/tsgeninfo.nsf/docid/2005033108162039
    [Related discussion: http://windowssecrets.com/comp/080207#story1]

    I would even more strongly recommend doing #1 and #2 above and then
    installing ANY other anti-virus application other than a Norton or McAfee
    application!

    PS: What happens when your buddy's subscription expires and he decides not
    to renew it (assuming he's still your buddy at the time)?
     
    PA Bear [MS MVP], Sep 26, 2009
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