The newbie's dilemma!

Discussion in 'Virus Information' started by BoaterDave, Aug 13, 2007.

  1. BoaterDave

    Troll_Lady Guest

    correction. i am NOT the Administrator at Annexcafe.

    i'm sure if you did a google search, you could find many posts from me on
    various MS groups over the years. long before you discovered the 'net.

    i keep my dial up account for my email address. it's been the same address
    since 1998.

    Now why on earth would someone with DSL use a dial-up account to post here?

    "Cloak and Dagger"? Good way of putting things. <g>

    Troll_Lady - the Administrator at Annexcafe - has strayed far from home to
    monitor my posts here. I'd have thought 'she' (whoever the poster actually
    is in reality) would be far too busy to follow the activities of someone
    like me. I'm just intrigued to know why I'm perceived as being a threat,
    either here on MS or over in 'that other place'.

    Unless, of course, there really is something that they wish to remain
    hidden. ;)

    BD

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    Troll_Lady, Aug 25, 2007
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  2. BoaterDave

    BoaterDave Guest

    It would seem that there is more than one of you then! I'm sorry if this is
    another case of mistaken identity.

    Instead of 'Googling' for the name only - I 'Googled' for "Troll_Lady
    +Annexcafe"

    Here is an example of what was found:
    http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?p=3101124

    Perhaps you will confirm that the Troll_Lady posting therein was NOT you
    either. TIA.

    BD

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    BoaterDave, Aug 25, 2007
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  3. BoaterDave

    Troll_Lady Guest

    LMBO!
    Troll_Lady is NOT my nick on Annexcafe, as you well know.

    http://www.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/microsoft.public.security.virus/2003-10/author.html#3842
    Li
    a.. Re: 4 hours (10/31/03)
    a.. Re: 4 hours (10/30/03)
    a.. Re: 4 hours (10/30/03)
    a.. Re: 4 hours (10/30/03)
    a.. 4 hours (10/30/03)
    just a small example, BD.
    you want answers to questions that are easily found using correct keywords.

    pay attention to the dates you find for my posts here and other ms groups.
    so, who has followed who where?


    It would seem that there is more than one of you then! I'm sorry if this is
    another case of mistaken identity.

    Instead of 'Googling' for the name only - I 'Googled' for "Troll_Lady
    +Annexcafe"

    Here is an example of what was found:
    http://forums.techarena.in/showthread.php?p=3101124

    Perhaps you will confirm that the Troll_Lady posting therein was NOT you
    either. TIA.

    BD

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    Troll_Lady, Aug 25, 2007
    #43
  4. BoaterDave

    BoaterDave Guest

    Just let me get this straight, Troll_Lady.

    You *do* post on Annexcafe, but with a different 'nick' - is that what you
    mean?

    Or do you mean that you have no connection with Annexcafe at all?

    This is most confusing! :(

    BD

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    BoaterDave, Aug 25, 2007
    #44
  5. BoaterDave

    BoaterDave Guest

    Maybe I've solved this myself.

    Here's a recent Internet Header. It shows quite clearly *your* IP address
    and the fact that you are "Asst. Admin."
    Not quite the same as being the actual Administator, but nearly right! Maybe
    you will be promoted one day! <g>

    No real arguement I fear (unless 'the other' Troll_Lady re-appears! <g>)

    FWIW

    BD

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    Subject: Re: dogagent
    From: "TrolLi" <>
    Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:15:34 -0400
    Message-ID: <>
    References: <>
    <> <>
    <> <>
    <>
    Bytes: 2177
    Lines: 44
    NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.2.201.149
    Path: pegasus.annex.net!not-for-mail
    Newsgroups: annexcafe.uk.general.user2user
    X-Authenticated-User: TrolLisaTroll
    X-Trace: pegasus.annex.net 1186751702 71.2.201.149 (10 Aug 2007
    08:15:02 -0500)
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
    boundary="----=_NextPart_000_2CBF_01C7DB2F.01B196B0"
    X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
    X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138
    Xref: pegasus.annex.net annexcafe.uk.general.user2user:6486
     
    BoaterDave, Aug 25, 2007
    #45
  6. BoaterDave

    Troll_Lady Guest

    i use TrolLi on Annexcafe newsgroups.
    you know this very well.


    Just let me get this straight, Troll_Lady.

    You *do* post on Annexcafe, but with a different 'nick' - is that what you
    mean?

    Or do you mean that you have no connection with Annexcafe at all?

    This is most confusing! :(

    BD

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    Troll_Lady, Aug 26, 2007
    #46
  7. BoaterDave

    Troll_Lady Guest

    what other Troll_Lady?


    Maybe I've solved this myself.

    Here's a recent Internet Header. It shows quite clearly *your* IP address
    and the fact that you are "Asst. Admin."
    Not quite the same as being the actual Administator, but nearly right! Maybe
    you will be promoted one day! <g>

    No real arguement I fear (unless 'the other' Troll_Lady re-appears! <g>)

    FWIW

    BD

    ****************************************************************************

    Subject: Re: dogagent
    From: "TrolLi" <>
    Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:15:34 -0400
    Message-ID: <>
    References: <>
    <> <>
    <> <>
    <>
    Bytes: 2177
    Lines: 44
    NNTP-Posting-Host: 71.2.201.149
    Path: pegasus.annex.net!not-for-mail
    Newsgroups: annexcafe.uk.general.user2user
    X-Authenticated-User: TrolLisaTroll
    X-Trace: pegasus.annex.net 1186751702 71.2.201.149 (10 Aug 2007
    08:15:02 -0500)
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
    boundary="----=_NextPart_000_2CBF_01C7DB2F.01B196B0"
    X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138
    X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138
    Xref: pegasus.annex.net annexcafe.uk.general.user2user:6486
     
    Troll_Lady, Aug 26, 2007
    #47
  8. BoaterDave

    BoaterDave Guest

    You ask "what other Troll_Lady?" Answer: The one who said this, right
    here in this thread:

    correction. i am NOT the Administrator at Annexcafe.

    i'm sure if you did a google search, you could find many posts from me on
    various MS groups over the years. long before you discovered the 'net.

    i keep my dial up account for my email address. it's been the same address
    since 1998.

    Now why on earth would someone with DSL use a dial-up account to post here?

    "Cloak and Dagger"? Good way of putting things. <g>

    Troll_Lady - the Administrator at Annexcafe - has strayed far from home to
    monitor my posts here. I'd have thought 'she' (whoever the poster actually
    is in reality) would be far too busy to follow the activities of someone
    like me. I'm just intrigued to know why I'm perceived as being a threat,
    either here on MS or over in 'that other place'.

    Unless, of course, there really is something that they wish to remain
    hidden. ;)

    BD
     
    BoaterDave, Aug 26, 2007
    #48
  9. BoaterDave

    BoaterDave Guest

    I must have missed your post Andrew. Sorry for my lack of response.

    What I would have said at the time was "and here am I thinking that you
    were/are the 'top dog' in your own U2U group". Seems like someone else is
    keeping you and your posters 'under control'. Now I wonder why that is? <g>

    David
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    I don't Delete. It is being dealt with by someone more senior than me.

    --
    Andrew Taylor
    Toronto - Canada
    ~

    Ishie said, in your group, "It would please me greatly if the moderator
    would remove this thread."

    Are you going to remove same, Andrew?

    BD
     
    BoaterDave, Aug 26, 2007
    #49
  10. BoaterDave

    Dustin Cook Guest

    Why wouldn't they? I have access to several dialup accounts, several dsl
    lines and several cable modem lines. Not including various shell
    accounts. Each one serves a purpose.
    It just seems to me that you have misunderstood a few things, and seem to
    think someone is out to get you or something. I don't know, it's just
    what I'm beginning to think.
    I'm not clear as to what you mean by monitor your posts either. Does she
    in some way have direct control over a usenet server? Is she sending
    global cancellation notices against your posts? What exactly is it she's
    doing?
    I'm lost. I haven't seen anyone claim you are a threat to them. Do you
    have url references?
    Everyone has things they'd rather not have the entire world find out, I'm
    sure. Everyone is human and we all make mistakes.

    Btw, It's not a big deal to myself, as I'll fix your post as I reply, but
    top-posting is often frowned upon because it interrupts the logical flow
    of the conversation.

    --
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    Dustin Cook
    Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c
    Email:
    Web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml
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    Dustin Cook, Aug 26, 2007
    #50
  11. BoaterDave

    Dustin Cook Guest

    MS didn't have newsgroups when I got on the net. *grin*
    I have a yahoo account that's older. LoL.

    Anyhow, I suspect the root of the problem is lack of understanding on
    the part of BoaterDave. with regard to what's going on inside the
    computer.

    I don't mean this as an attack on him as everyone has to start
    someplace. Eventually, I believe he will learn how various technologies
    work and be less inclined to form the conclusions that he has
    previously.


    --
    ####################################################
    Dustin Cook
    Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c
    Email:
    Web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml
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    Dustin Cook, Aug 26, 2007
    #51
  12. BoaterDave

    Troll_Lady Guest

    you're surely not suggesting someone is impersonating me, are you?


    You ask "what other Troll_Lady?" Answer: The one who said this, right
    here in this thread:

    correction. i am NOT the Administrator at Annexcafe.

    i'm sure if you did a google search, you could find many posts from me on
    various MS groups over the years. long before you discovered the 'net.

    i keep my dial up account for my email address. it's been the same address
    since 1998.

    Now why on earth would someone with DSL use a dial-up account to post here?

    "Cloak and Dagger"? Good way of putting things. <g>

    Troll_Lady - the Administrator at Annexcafe - has strayed far from home to
    monitor my posts here. I'd have thought 'she' (whoever the poster actually
    is in reality) would be far too busy to follow the activities of someone
    like me. I'm just intrigued to know why I'm perceived as being a threat,
    either here on MS or over in 'that other place'.

    Unless, of course, there really is something that they wish to remain
    hidden. ;)

    BD
     
    Troll_Lady, Aug 26, 2007
    #52
  13. BoaterDave

    Troll_Lady Guest

    i hope he takes the time to learn before tossing out any more of his
    accusations.

    now, i think i'll go back on topic and go check out your BugHunter.
    TL

    MS didn't have newsgroups when I got on the net. *grin*
    I have a yahoo account that's older. LoL.

    Anyhow, I suspect the root of the problem is lack of understanding on
    the part of BoaterDave. with regard to what's going on inside the
    computer.

    I don't mean this as an attack on him as everyone has to start
    someplace. Eventually, I believe he will learn how various technologies
    work and be less inclined to form the conclusions that he has
    previously.


    --
    ####################################################
    Dustin Cook
    Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - v2.2c
    Email:
    Web..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
    Pad..: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml
    ####################################################
     
    Troll_Lady, Aug 26, 2007
    #53
  14. BoaterDave

    BoaterDave Guest

    In-line replies

    I'm obviously dumb about such things :( Over here in the UK I pay a monthly
    fee to an ISP for Broadband connection to the Internet. All time 'on line' -
    24/7 - is 'free'. Whilst I recognise that I could also use a dial-up
    facility with any ISP, such time on line with them (via a telphone line)
    will cost real 'extra' money, often on a 'per minute' basis. As someone with
    limited income, I can identify no reason at all for incurring extra costs.
    'Tis the other way round, Dustin. I'm trying to identify the bad guys! :)
    She has control over Annexcafe newsgroups and has the ability to remove any
    posts which are deemed 'unacceptable' - especially those which are probing
    for the truth. I have been banned from posting there and am abiding by that
    request. Whilst others may think otherwise, I'm convinced that she is only
    Indeed. :)
    I do understand that, but feel it stems from habits in the past.When I first
    ventured into a newsgroup (here on the MS boards) I'm sure I missed some
    answers to my queries as I was totally unaware of 'bottom posting'. I'm
    sure most folk can cope with either method, especially if they follow a
    thread from the outset and get a 'feeling' for the subject matter. Thanks
    for your advice though. :)

    David
     
    BoaterDave, Aug 26, 2007
    #54
  15. BoaterDave

    BoaterDave Guest

    No!
     
    BoaterDave, Aug 26, 2007
    #55
  16. BoaterDave

    Troll_Lady Guest

    another correction, BD.
    i do not have control over Annexcafe newsgroups to remove any posts except
    at board owners\moderators requests. boards are completely autonomous.

    now, if you want to mention i have control to remove any posts from my own
    boards, i won't dispute that.


    In-line replies

    I'm obviously dumb about such things :( Over here in the UK I pay a monthly
    fee to an ISP for Broadband connection to the Internet. All time 'on line' -
    24/7 - is 'free'. Whilst I recognise that I could also use a dial-up
    facility with any ISP, such time on line with them (via a telphone line)
    will cost real 'extra' money, often on a 'per minute' basis. As someone with
    limited income, I can identify no reason at all for incurring extra costs.
    'Tis the other way round, Dustin. I'm trying to identify the bad guys! :)
    She has control over Annexcafe newsgroups and has the ability to remove any
    posts which are deemed 'unacceptable' - especially those which are probing
    for the truth. I have been banned from posting there and am abiding by that
    request. Whilst others may think otherwise, I'm convinced that she is only
    Indeed. :)
    I do understand that, but feel it stems from habits in the past.When I first
    ventured into a newsgroup (here on the MS boards) I'm sure I missed some
    answers to my queries as I was totally unaware of 'bottom posting'. I'm
    sure most folk can cope with either method, especially if they follow a
    thread from the outset and get a 'feeling' for the subject matter. Thanks
    for your advice though. :)

    David
     
    Troll_Lady, Aug 26, 2007
    #56
  17. BoaterDave

    Troll_Lady Guest

    thank you. progress.

    No!
     
    Troll_Lady, Aug 26, 2007
    #57
  18. BoaterDave

    BoaterDave Guest

    YW :)

     
    BoaterDave, Aug 26, 2007
    #58
  19. BoaterDave

    BoaterDave Guest

    Ooops! Sorry, Li.

    So who, now ......... EXACTLY .......... has the power to remove posts in
    the UK U2U group?

    Is Sysop Ann (very straight and fair in my opinion) still 'in charge' - with
    power to delete posts? If not, *why* not?

    Does Andrew Taylor, the group Moderator, now have power to delete posts? If
    not, *why* not? (It's his group after all ........ isn't it?)

    There was very little traffic on the UK group before my arrival - and there
    has been very little since. No-one needed to view or respond to any post I
    made. Why did so many 'supporters' suddenly appear from the US site to try
    to silence me in my quest for the truth? Any idea?

    Is Mr Gooden concerned about the views of a kook like me? If so, *why* do
    you think that might be? He's nothing to hide ......... has he?

    Failure to answer such simple queries is one of the reasons that you now
    find me posting here. It would seem that K.Dee's request to Microsoft to
    have me banned from the Internet has not (yet) been successful. Frustrating
    for her, I suspect! :)

    HTH

    David


    <snip>
     
    BoaterDave, Aug 26, 2007
    #59
  20. BoaterDave

    Troll_Lady Guest

    nyob.
    TL

    Ooops! Sorry, Li.

    So who, now ......... EXACTLY .......... has the power to remove posts in
    the UK U2U group?

    Is Sysop Ann (very straight and fair in my opinion) still 'in charge' - with
    power to delete posts? If not, *why* not?

    Does Andrew Taylor, the group Moderator, now have power to delete posts? If
    not, *why* not? (It's his group after all ........ isn't it?)

    There was very little traffic on the UK group before my arrival - and there
    has been very little since. No-one needed to view or respond to any post I
    made. Why did so many 'supporters' suddenly appear from the US site to try
    to silence me in my quest for the truth? Any idea?

    Is Mr Gooden concerned about the views of a kook like me? If so, *why* do
    you think that might be? He's nothing to hide ......... has he?

    Failure to answer such simple queries is one of the reasons that you now
    find me posting here. It would seem that K.Dee's request to Microsoft to
    have me banned from the Internet has not (yet) been successful. Frustrating
    for her, I suspect! :)

    HTH

    David


    <snip>
     
    Troll_Lady, Aug 26, 2007
    #60
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