The newbie's dilemma!

Discussion in 'Virus Information' started by BoaterDave, Aug 13, 2007.

  1. BoaterDave

    BoaterDave Guest

    How can anyone visiting here for the first time have *any* idea that they
    will receive good ........ or bad .......... advice?

    I thought at first that the TechNet Communities must be monitored by
    Microsoft staff and therefore be relatively safe. I'm still not sure about
    that. Having come here (for ease of use, on someone's advice) it appears
    that *no* such protection applies and that it really is a 'free-for-all' and
    is, quite likely, a dangerous place to visit.

    This may not have always been so - and I do wish to stress that I HAVE
    received some excellent and helpful advice, much of which has enabled me to
    help myself more and better understand my PC and its' software. I have also
    learnt a great deal about 'malware' and how to deal with it.

    PCButts1 - some while ago now - explained to me how effective it is to run
    HiJackThis and then copy and paste a specific entry directly into Google.
    Here's an example - O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher]
    "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe"

    Try it for yourself. I got 66,800 responses which can be reviewed at
    leisure. <g>

    What I have NOT found is other people who are trying to find out who
    *perpetrates* the 'malware' in the first place - no-one seems to care. I do!

    So, in spite of comments like that of 'Fitz' elsewhere on this group, and also having been
    'warned-off'' having contact with PCButts1 by Kerry Brown and David H
    Lipman, I'm grateful for PCB's help. Perhaps he's one of the good guys after
    all, but only experience here will tell. I'm glad I'm not a newbie any more!

    BD
     
    BoaterDave, Aug 13, 2007
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  2. Because groups like this are self policing. If someone does give bad advice, 6 other people will chime in, why that advice is wrong.

    I find the contents of PCButts1 website very disturbing.
    --
    Andrew Taylor
    ~

    How can anyone visiting here for the first time have *any* idea that they
    will receive good ........ or bad .......... advice?

    I thought at first that the TechNet Communities must be monitored by
    Microsoft staff and therefore be relatively safe. I'm still not sure about
    that. Having come here (for ease of use, on someone's advice) it appears
    that *no* such protection applies and that it really is a 'free-for-all' and
    is, quite likely, a dangerous place to visit.

    This may not have always been so - and I do wish to stress that I HAVE
    received some excellent and helpful advice, much of which has enabled me to
    help myself more and better understand my PC and its' software. I have also
    learnt a great deal about 'malware' and how to deal with it.

    PCButts1 - some while ago now - explained to me how effective it is to run
    HiJackThis and then copy and paste a specific entry directly into Google.
    Here's an example - O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher]
    "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe"

    Try it for yourself. I got 66,800 responses which can be reviewed at
    leisure. <g>

    What I have NOT found is other people who are trying to find out who
    *perpetrates* the 'malware' in the first place - no-one seems to care. I do!

    So, in spite of comments like that of 'Fitz' elsewhere on this group, and also having been
    'warned-off'' having contact with PCButts1 by Kerry Brown and David H
    Lipman, I'm grateful for PCB's help. Perhaps he's one of the good guys after
    all, but only experience here will tell. I'm glad I'm not a newbie any more!

    BD
     
    Andrew Taylor, Aug 14, 2007
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  3. BoaterDave

    Philip K. Guest

    HI BoaterDave,
    Join the crowd. Your complaint is not specific to this news group or
    Microsoft. It is true of every news group which I have visited. Large
    companies no longer give out free advice. Large companies do not monitor
    news groups. When push comes to shove, how much free advice and/or
    monitoring can you expect on a one hundred or two hundred dollar retail
    sale. I have no idea if it is still true, but the Windows 98 news group did
    not even have an automatic check to weed out filthy attack language and
    counter-attacks.
    Phil


    How can anyone visiting here for the first time have *any* idea that they
    will receive good ........ or bad .......... advice?

    I thought at first that the TechNet Communities must be monitored by
    Microsoft staff and therefore be relatively safe. I'm still not sure about
    that. Having come here (for ease of use, on someone's advice) it appears
    that *no* such protection applies and that it really is a 'free-for-all' and
    is, quite likely, a dangerous place to visit.

    This may not have always been so - and I do wish to stress that I HAVE
    received some excellent and helpful advice, much of which has enabled me to
    help myself more and better understand my PC and its' software. I have also
    learnt a great deal about 'malware' and how to deal with it.

    PCButts1 - some while ago now - explained to me how effective it is to run
    HiJackThis and then copy and paste a specific entry directly into Google.
    Here's an example - O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher]
    "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe"

    Try it for yourself. I got 66,800 responses which can be reviewed at
    leisure. <g>

    What I have NOT found is other people who are trying to find out who
    *perpetrates* the 'malware' in the first place - no-one seems to care. I do!

    So, in spite of comments like that of 'Fitz' elsewhere on this group, and
    also having been
    'warned-off'' having contact with PCButts1 by Kerry Brown and David H
    Lipman, I'm grateful for PCB's help. Perhaps he's one of the good guys after
    all, but only experience here will tell. I'm glad I'm not a newbie any more!

    BD
     
    Philip K., Aug 16, 2007
    #3
  4. BoaterDave

    BoaterDave Guest

    Well I'm glad that *someone* reads my posts, Phil! :)

    Thanks for writing in.

    BD

    *********************************************
     
    BoaterDave, Aug 16, 2007
    #4
  5. BoaterDave

    BoaterDave Guest

    Ishie said, in your group, "It would please me greatly if the moderator would remove this thread."

    Are you going to remove same, Andrew?

    BD

    *************************************************************************
    Because groups like this are self policing. If someone does give bad advice, 6 other people will chime in, why that advice is wrong.

    I find the contents of PCButts1 website very disturbing.
    --
    Andrew Taylor
    ~

    How can anyone visiting here for the first time have *any* idea that they
    will receive good ........ or bad .......... advice?

    I thought at first that the TechNet Communities must be monitored by
    Microsoft staff and therefore be relatively safe. I'm still not sure about
    that. Having come here (for ease of use, on someone's advice) it appears
    that *no* such protection applies and that it really is a 'free-for-all' and
    is, quite likely, a dangerous place to visit.

    This may not have always been so - and I do wish to stress that I HAVE
    received some excellent and helpful advice, much of which has enabled me to
    help myself more and better understand my PC and its' software. I have also
    learnt a great deal about 'malware' and how to deal with it.

    PCButts1 - some while ago now - explained to me how effective it is to run
    HiJackThis and then copy and paste a specific entry directly into Google.
    Here's an example - O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher]
    "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe"

    Try it for yourself. I got 66,800 responses which can be reviewed at
    leisure. <g>

    What I have NOT found is other people who are trying to find out who
    *perpetrates* the 'malware' in the first place - no-one seems to care. I do!

    So, in spite of comments like that of 'Fitz' elsewhere on this group, and also having been
    'warned-off'' having contact with PCButts1 by Kerry Brown and David H
    Lipman, I'm grateful for PCB's help. Perhaps he's one of the good guys after
    all, but only experience here will tell. I'm glad I'm not a newbie any more!

    BD
     
    BoaterDave, Aug 18, 2007
    #5
  6. BoaterDave

    Jim Guest

    This is an unmoderated group.
    Jim
    Ishie said, in your group, "It would please me greatly if the moderator would remove this thread."

    Are you going to remove same, Andrew?

    BD

    *************************************************************************
    Because groups like this are self policing. If someone does give bad advice, 6 other people will chime in, why that advice is wrong.

    I find the contents of PCButts1 website very disturbing.
    --
    Andrew Taylor
    ~

    How can anyone visiting here for the first time have *any* idea that they
    will receive good ........ or bad .......... advice?

    I thought at first that the TechNet Communities must be monitored by
    Microsoft staff and therefore be relatively safe. I'm still not sure about
    that. Having come here (for ease of use, on someone's advice) it appears
    that *no* such protection applies and that it really is a 'free-for-all' and
    is, quite likely, a dangerous place to visit.

    This may not have always been so - and I do wish to stress that I HAVE
    received some excellent and helpful advice, much of which has enabled me to
    help myself more and better understand my PC and its' software. I have also
    learnt a great deal about 'malware' and how to deal with it.

    PCButts1 - some while ago now - explained to me how effective it is to run
    HiJackThis and then copy and paste a specific entry directly into Google.
    Here's an example - O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher]
    "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe"

    Try it for yourself. I got 66,800 responses which can be reviewed at
    leisure. <g>

    What I have NOT found is other people who are trying to find out who
    *perpetrates* the 'malware' in the first place - no-one seems to care. I do!

    So, in spite of comments like that of 'Fitz' elsewhere on this group, and also having been
    'warned-off'' having contact with PCButts1 by Kerry Brown and David H
    Lipman, I'm grateful for PCB's help. Perhaps he's one of the good guys after
    all, but only experience here will tell. I'm glad I'm not a newbie any more!

    BD
     
    Jim, Aug 18, 2007
    #6
  7. BoaterDave

    BoaterDave Guest

    Thanks, Jim. (Andrew will understand <g>)

    BD

    *************************************
    This is an unmoderated group.
    Jim
    Ishie said, in your group, "It would please me greatly if the moderator
    would remove this thread."

    Are you going to remove same, Andrew?

    BD

    *************************************************************************
    Because groups like this are self policing. If someone does give bad advice,
    6 other people will chime in, why that advice is wrong.

    I find the contents of PCButts1 website very disturbing.
    --
    Andrew Taylor
    ~

    How can anyone visiting here for the first time have *any* idea that they
    will receive good ........ or bad .......... advice?

    I thought at first that the TechNet Communities must be monitored by
    Microsoft staff and therefore be relatively safe. I'm still not sure about
    that. Having come here (for ease of use, on someone's advice) it appears
    that *no* such protection applies and that it really is a 'free-for-all' and
    is, quite likely, a dangerous place to visit.

    This may not have always been so - and I do wish to stress that I HAVE
    received some excellent and helpful advice, much of which has enabled me to
    help myself more and better understand my PC and its' software. I have also
    learnt a great deal about 'malware' and how to deal with it.

    PCButts1 - some while ago now - explained to me how effective it is to run
    HiJackThis and then copy and paste a specific entry directly into Google.
    Here's an example - O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher]
    "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe"

    Try it for yourself. I got 66,800 responses which can be reviewed at
    leisure. <g>

    What I have NOT found is other people who are trying to find out who
    *perpetrates* the 'malware' in the first place - no-one seems to care. I do!

    So, in spite of comments like that of 'Fitz' elsewhere on this group, and
    also having been
    'warned-off'' having contact with PCButts1 by Kerry Brown and David H
    Lipman, I'm grateful for PCB's help. Perhaps he's one of the good guys after
    all, but only experience here will tell. I'm glad I'm not a newbie any more!

    BD
     
    BoaterDave, Aug 18, 2007
    #7
  8. BoaterDave

    Peter Foldes Guest

    Andrew

    Have you turned into a bad guy now. :)

    --
    Peter

    Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
    Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

    Because groups like this are self policing. If someone does give bad advice, 6 other people will chime in, why that advice is wrong.

    I find the contents of PCButts1 website very disturbing.
    --
    Andrew Taylor
    ~

    How can anyone visiting here for the first time have *any* idea that they
    will receive good ........ or bad .......... advice?

    I thought at first that the TechNet Communities must be monitored by
    Microsoft staff and therefore be relatively safe. I'm still not sure about
    that. Having come here (for ease of use, on someone's advice) it appears
    that *no* such protection applies and that it really is a 'free-for-all' and
    is, quite likely, a dangerous place to visit.

    This may not have always been so - and I do wish to stress that I HAVE
    received some excellent and helpful advice, much of which has enabled me to
    help myself more and better understand my PC and its' software. I have also
    learnt a great deal about 'malware' and how to deal with it.

    PCButts1 - some while ago now - explained to me how effective it is to run
    HiJackThis and then copy and paste a specific entry directly into Google.
    Here's an example - O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher]
    "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe"

    Try it for yourself. I got 66,800 responses which can be reviewed at
    leisure. <g>

    What I have NOT found is other people who are trying to find out who
    *perpetrates* the 'malware' in the first place - no-one seems to care. I do!

    So, in spite of comments like that of 'Fitz' elsewhere on this group, and also having been
    'warned-off'' having contact with PCButts1 by Kerry Brown and David H
    Lipman, I'm grateful for PCB's help. Perhaps he's one of the good guys after
    all, but only experience here will tell. I'm glad I'm not a newbie any more!

    BD
     
    Peter Foldes, Aug 19, 2007
    #8
  9. BoaterDave

    BoaterDave Guest

    Hello Peter

    Andrew is one of the good guys. His credentials have never been in question.

    It is *you* who is the unknown quantity. I accept that someone at Annexcafe
    newsgroups could have been masquerading as you. All you had to do was
    confirm, here, that it wasn't you who was posting 'over there'. Simple
    really. Yet you refused to do so.

    David

    ***********************************************************
    Andrew

    Have you turned into a bad guy now. :)

    --
    Peter

    Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
    Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

    Because groups like this are self policing. If someone does give bad advice,
    6 other people will chime in, why that advice is wrong.

    I find the contents of PCButts1 website very disturbing.
    --
    Andrew Taylor
    ~

    How can anyone visiting here for the first time have *any* idea that they
    will receive good ........ or bad .......... advice?

    I thought at first that the TechNet Communities must be monitored by
    Microsoft staff and therefore be relatively safe. I'm still not sure about
    that. Having come here (for ease of use, on someone's advice) it appears
    that *no* such protection applies and that it really is a 'free-for-all'
    and
    is, quite likely, a dangerous place to visit.

    This may not have always been so - and I do wish to stress that I HAVE
    received some excellent and helpful advice, much of which has enabled me
    to
    help myself more and better understand my PC and its' software. I have
    also
    learnt a great deal about 'malware' and how to deal with it.

    PCButts1 - some while ago now - explained to me how effective it is to run
    HiJackThis and then copy and paste a specific entry directly into Google.
    Here's an example - O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher]
    "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 8.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe"

    Try it for yourself. I got 66,800 responses which can be reviewed at
    leisure. <g>

    What I have NOT found is other people who are trying to find out who
    *perpetrates* the 'malware' in the first place - no-one seems to care. I
    do!

    So, in spite of comments like that of 'Fitz' elsewhere on this group, and
    also having been
    'warned-off'' having contact with PCButts1 by Kerry Brown and David H
    Lipman, I'm grateful for PCB's help. Perhaps he's one of the good guys
    after
    all, but only experience here will tell. I'm glad I'm not a newbie any
    more!

    BD
     
    BoaterDave, Aug 19, 2007
    #9
  10. BoaterDave

    Dave H Guest

    Guvf zna vf pyrneyl ybbarl, vg vf orfg gb vtaber uvz.
    rot13

    Dave H

     
    Dave H, Aug 19, 2007
    #10
  11. BoaterDave

    BoaterDave Guest

    So - you still here tracking me Dave.

    Someone posting "This man is clearly looney, it is best to ignore him" must
    surely have better things to do on a Sunday afternoon?

    BD

    *********************************************************************
     
    BoaterDave, Aug 19, 2007
    #11
  12. BoaterDave

    Troll_Lady Guest

    why are you goading Andrew?
    he's a 'good guy' and doesn't deserve this embarrassment from one of his
    'friends'.


    Ishie said, in your group, "It would please me greatly if the moderator
    would remove this thread."

    Are you going to remove same, Andrew?

    BD

    *************************************************************************
    Because groups like this are self policing. If someone does give bad
    advice, 6 other people will chime in, why that advice is wrong.

    I find the contents of PCButts1 website very disturbing.
     
    Troll_Lady, Aug 19, 2007
    #12
  13. BoaterDave

    BoaterDave Guest

    Goading? I truly do not understand. How can I have possibly caused Andrew
    embarrassment here?

    I completely agree that Andrew is a 'good guy' - as I said in my response to
    Peter Foldes just two hours ago.

    You should have listened to Andrew yourself when he advised you to let me
    have my own group. Better still, you should never have excluded me from
    Annexcafe in the first place. You *may* be an innocent party, Li, but
    something is NOT straight-forward 'over there'. Think about *anyone* who may
    have encouraged you to exclude me - you may then be a step closer to
    discovering who the bad guys really are.

    What made you come here looking for me again anyway? Are you part of some
    secret society which needs to track those who may be suspicious of the
    motives of others? Why should my personal views be of any concern to you? As
    your very close friend has stated this very afternoon, ""This man is clearly
    looney, it is best to ignore him". Why didn't you take Dave's advice and
    simply ignore me? So many questions .... yet rarely a straight-forward
    answer.

    BD
    ****************************************************************************************
     
    BoaterDave, Aug 19, 2007
    #13
  14. not the last time I looked in the mirror Peter :>)

    --
    Andrew Taylor
    Toronto - Canada
    ~

    Andrew

    Have you turned into a bad guy now. :)
     
    Andrew Taylor, Aug 19, 2007
    #14
  15. I don't Delete. It is being dealt with by someone more senior than me.

    --
    Andrew Taylor
    Toronto - Canada
    ~

    Ishie said, in your group, "It would please me greatly if the moderator would remove this thread."

    Are you going to remove same, Andrew?

    BD
     
    Andrew Taylor, Aug 19, 2007
    #15
  16. BoaterDave

    Leythos Guest

    If you think the PCB is One of the Good Guys, then you're still a noob.

    Anyone that hosts and creates porn on a website and exposes KIDS to it
    without concern, the same site he sends you to for downloading his
    questionable solutions that have been proven to be pirated, well, you
    just should look elsewhere at any cost - supporting people that expose
    kids to porn is the worst.

    --

    Leythos
    - Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
    - Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
    drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
    (remove 999 for proper email address)
     
    Leythos, Aug 20, 2007
    #16
  17. BoaterDave

    Troll_Lady Guest

    *Think about *anyone* who may have encouraged you to exclude me - you may
    then be a step closer to discovering who the bad guys really are.*

    it was you, yourself, who caused you to be 'excluded'.

    search Usenet for Admin groups, ask them for a group.

    to find 'bad guys' search Usenet for them. (use google groups if you don't
    know how to access Usenet using a news client.)

    as you have noticed in over 2 years of searching 'private' servers, you have
    found nothing. move on to bigger, meaner, badder pastures. or are you afraid
    to meet and confront real 'bad guys' ?

    two steps closer you go to where you truly belong.
    i suspect someone will have a new toy to play with soon.
    how are you coming along with your ip scanners?

    TL
    (follow up set)

    ****************************************************************************************

    Goading? I truly do not understand. How can I have possibly caused Andrew
    embarrassment here?

    I completely agree that Andrew is a 'good guy' - as I said in my response to
    Peter Foldes just two hours ago.

    You should have listened to Andrew yourself when he advised you to let me
    have my own group. Better still, you should never have excluded me from
    Annexcafe in the first place. You *may* be an innocent party, Li, but
    something is NOT straight-forward 'over there'. Think about *anyone* who may
    have encouraged you to exclude me - you may then be a step closer to
    discovering who the bad guys really are.

    What made you come here looking for me again anyway? Are you part of some
    secret society which needs to track those who may be suspicious of the
    motives of others? Why should my personal views be of any concern to you? As
    your very close friend has stated this very afternoon, ""This man is clearly
    looney, it is best to ignore him". Why didn't you take Dave's advice and
    simply ignore me? So many questions .... yet rarely a straight-forward
    answer.

    BD
    ****************************************************************************************
     
    Troll_Lady, Aug 20, 2007
    #17
  18. BoaterDave

    BoaterDave Guest

    Hi Li

    I'm fine right here. Thanks for asking.

    I note that you've not answered *any* of my questions - nothing changes, eh?
    <g>

    David
     
    BoaterDave, Aug 20, 2007
    #18
  19. BoaterDave

    BoaterDave Guest

    I've been a bit 'off colour' suffering from a summer cold, so didn't at
    first pick up on this comment of yours, Li - "how are you coming along with
    your ip scanners?"

    Although others here will not be at all interested I'm sure, I'd be most
    pleased if you would remind me of *how* you know about my IP scanners -
    you've not been peeking inside my PC have you, Li?

    That's impossible, of course! ..... or is it? (but you wouldn't tell me
    and the rest of the world if you *are* able to, now would you? <g>)

    BD

    **********************************************************
    <snip>
     
    BoaterDave, Aug 21, 2007
    #19
  20. BoaterDave

    Dave H Guest

    All logical.
    We watch for bad guys here.
    Bad guys do IP scanning.
    If you have used an IP scanner, your ISP will disconnect you, for being a
    bad guy.

    Dave H
     
    Dave H, Aug 21, 2007
    #20
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