The End of m.p.s.v.

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  1. Max Wachtel

    Max Wachtel Guest

    ms will start to remove all newsgroups from their servers.

    it has been a good run.........
    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-20004109-56.htm
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  2. From: "Max Wachtel" <>

    | ms will start to remove all newsgroups from their servers.

    | it has been a good run.........
    | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-20004109-56.htm


    Yeah... But there is STILL
    a.c.v , a.c.a-v and a.p.s
     
    David H. Lipman, May 4, 2010
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    perhaps they too will go the way of the dinosaurs......
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    | perhaps they too will go the way of the dinosaurs......


    Google would be the impetus !
     
    David H. Lipman, May 4, 2010
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  5. Max Wachtel

    Leythos Guest

    Usenet groups can continue as long as other servers carry the groups, MS
    doesn't have to maintain them or originate them.
     
    Leythos, May 5, 2010
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  6. From: "Leythos" <>


    | Usenet groups can continue as long as other servers carry the groups, MS
    | doesn't have to maintain them or originate them.

    But... Can possibly send a control message to remove them.
     
    David H. Lipman, May 5, 2010
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  7. May be just as well, MS never seemed to get NNTP right anyway. :eek:D

    ....now if only techarena, egghead and their ilk would go away.
     
    FromTheRafters, May 5, 2010
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  8. Max Wachtel

    Peter Foldes Guest

    Date 5/4/2010
    Starting in early summer 2010, Microsoft will begin progressively closing down the
    Microsoft public newsgroups to enrich conversations in the rapidly-growing forum
    platform. This decision is in response to worldwide market trends and evolving
    customer needs.

    Microsoft continues to invest in forums to reduce customer effort, consolidate
    community venues and make it easier for active contributors to retain their
    influence. Forums provide a healthy community environment with less spam and make
    answers easier to find by customers and search engines. Additionally, forums offer
    a better user and off-topic management platform that will improve customer
    satisfaction by facilitating discussions in a clean space.

    We understand that some newsgroups are still active, and important to the community.
    In the coming days and weeks, we will be rolling out tools and resources to minimize
    disruption to the community discussions.

    We are working diligently on providing additional resources and information in local
    languages later this week. In the meantime, please refer to the official Microsoft
    Newsgroup website http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx
    concerning this issue. The Microsoft Newsgroup website will be made available in
    additional languages in the next few days.


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  9. Max Wachtel

    Virus Guy Guest

    No self-respecting admin would configure his NNTP server to accept
    external rm-group control messages.

    And besides - Microsoft doesn't issue control messages anyways.

    Microsoft removed over 500 newsgroups from it's server last December -
    mostly low-traffic (or zero traffic) non-english groups. I checked some
    of the english groups and they still exist on non-microsoft servers.

    This group will still exist on the world-wide usenet after this
    so-called deadline (when exactly is "early summer" ?).
     
    Virus Guy, May 5, 2010
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  10. Max Wachtel

    Hot-text Guest

    Usenet groups is reserves, do a way with a server will end the groups the
    are being reserves to Usenet community groups...
    in time MS will move to Forums provide a healthy community environment with
    less spam and make answers easier to find by customers and a PV Chat for
    community discussions groups Too!
     
    Hot-text, May 5, 2010
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  11. Max Wachtel

    Hot-text Guest

    This my still exist on the world-wide UseNet
    But not under the name of Microsoft public
    and you going to server the newsgroups so that can reserve @ UseNet
    I can see it Now nntp://Guy.com Microsoft public security virus
    HMM Yes with no [MS MVP] to run it for you ,, << that will make you the
    Biggest LOOL. in all of UseNet!
     
    Hot-text, May 5, 2010
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    David Kaye Guest

    Whether or not Microsoft discontinues their hierarchy of newsgroups the
    unmoderated ones (which I assume is all of them) will continue to propagate
    worldwide as long as people post to them and there are other servers that will
    transport the messages. I'm sure Google Groups will continue, as will
    Giganews, Eternal September, etc.
     
    David Kaye, May 5, 2010
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  13. Max Wachtel

    David Kaye Guest

    A lot of news servers ignore control messages these days.
     
    David Kaye, May 5, 2010
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    Leythos Guest

    From all I've seen of the forums, they are harder to use, contain less
    users, have a terrible interface...

    Usenet has been plagued by trolls and spammers for decades, in fact, I
    think the first troll started about 4 years after Usenet went public, if
    I can remember back that far. Trolls are easy to deal with, it's the
    idiots that use Usenet like they are using email and that use web
    interfaces to Usenet that cause the most problems.
     
    Leythos, May 5, 2010
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  15. Max Wachtel

    Tom Willett Guest

    :
    :
    : What *will* you do with all that extra time, Peter? ;-)

    He'll be able to spend more time having you committed.
     
    Tom Willett, May 5, 2010
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  16. I agree!

    NNTP is difficult to police, "Big Brother" is trying to exert control
    over users and wants NNTP to disappear. :-(

    Long live NNTP!!
     
    FromTheRafters, May 5, 2010
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  17. From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org>


    | I agree!

    | NNTP is difficult to police, "Big Brother" is trying to exert control
    | over users and wants NNTP to disappear. :-(

    | Long live NNTP!!

    Like NY AG Andy Cuomo.

    He's the reason why *many* US ISPs have dropped providing Usenet.

    Too much CP in the binaries.
     
    David H. Lipman, May 5, 2010
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  18. Can't say that I'd miss the binaries much if that became an equitable
    halfway measure. I like the discussion aspect (especially unmoderated)
    and the fact that it *isn't* (or at least *wasn't*) the web.
     
    FromTheRafters, May 6, 2010
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  19. Max Wachtel

    VanguardLH Guest

    Oooh, 1 NNTP server out of how many THOUSANDS of NNTP server? Yeah, no big
    deal. Means the webnews-for-boobs users of Microsoft's attempt to usurp
    Usenet will disappear. A welcome reduction in unmotivated knee-jerk posting
    users from Usenet, much like how less noisy the newsgroups become if you
    kill file or use a NNTP server that filters out the Google Groupers.
     
    VanguardLH, May 6, 2010
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  20. Max Wachtel

    Leythos Guest

    Yep, in the days before binary groups and posts, I could keep 6 months
    of Usenet groups on my server in about 100MB of drive space.
     
    Leythos, May 6, 2010
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