Re: Cannot work with my own files after system change (XP Pro SP3)

Discussion in 'Computer Security' started by fixfox, Mar 22, 2010.

  1. fixfox

    fixfox Guest

    Hi Dave, I did not mean the bromide being itchy to me. I just meant
    that you wanted to tease those group members a bit with a common
    wisdom which should not hurt. Besides I am very grateful you asked
    them. And I am not a he, I am a she.
    Regards
    Luise
     
    fixfox, Mar 22, 2010
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  2. fixfox

    fixfox Guest

    oh yes, I got a very promising help from Shenan, but the method
    failed, too. The system is still poking its tongue at me.
    It is of no use to be the very owner of your car - if it has no door,
    you can't open it unless with an axe.
    I need a hacker with a very sharp axe!!!!!!!!!!

    I put this at the end of my thread in order to let all your clever
    folk know that this riddle is not yet solved.
     
    fixfox, Mar 22, 2010
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  3. From: "~BD~" <.>



    | I really appreciate that comment, Luise :)

    | You will have noticed that Mr Lipman feels that I shouldn't attempt to
    | help people such as yourself. I have no wish to irritate him, or anyone
    | else, but he cannot appreciate that there are more ways of tackling a
    | situation than his own blinkered approach.

    | Maybe one of the guys (or gals!) from the 24hr group will come up with a
    | suggestion in due course.

    | I feel your frustration though and am sad that no answer has yet been
    | forthcoming. Stay cheerful - it's only a machine! :)

    Your x-posting this thread to 24hrs didn't "help" him at all. In fact he stripped it it
    and you added it back. You keep adding it back because YOU ARE A TROLL.

    This subject matter is over your head and Shenan is *extremely* qualified to assist the
    OP. In this case, more than myself.
     
    David H. Lipman, Mar 23, 2010
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  4. fixfox

    fixfox Guest

    Yes, a torturing machine! When it behaves recalcitrant.
    But I cannot work without it. And, as everybody knows, Germans live
    for working, logically I cannot live without it. :-( Emercencyyy!
    But anyway, tomorrow is a very busy day and I cannot meet my PC before
    tea time. Hopefully I will find lots and lots of posts from hackers
    and sorcerers ...

    Blinkered is a funny word - never heard or read it, but I like it.
     
    fixfox, Mar 23, 2010
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  5. fixfox

    fixfox Guest

    hey hey David Lipman - Luise is a female name!! I suppose you would
    have to say "didn't help HER".
    Well, I don't mind where my problem wheels around as long as clever
    people care for it. And - for an outsider: What is the matter all
    about? What is so special about this forum, what keeps you grumping
    for hours about that X-post?
    I thought this usenet was a matter of free choice. I have posted
    something in here for an Adobe problem (therefore I have two different
    screen names) and got NO answer till now. Besides, I was surprised
    that you found my thread well placed in the security-at-home
    discussion, for I was not so quite sure where this sujet belonged.
     
    fixfox, Mar 23, 2010
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  6. fixfox

    fixfox Guest

    I am not frustrated at all - you gave me lots of ideas what to do and
    I do not yet feel helpless, that is the most important point! :)
     
    fixfox, Mar 23, 2010
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  7. fixfox

    fixfox Guest

    Hehe, thanks for the compliment. I am an artist but I work very much
    with my computers and love them - they are my dearest slaves. ;-)
    My husband is software architect but he works very hard and always
    shrugs when I have a "minor" problem with my PCs. Too much expert, you
    know ... ;-) Fortunately, I am intelligent and communicative enough
    to get along independently!!!
    Thanks for the hint. For the moment, I have placed an inquiry in the
    Acronis forum and I will see how their clever experts can help me.
    Yes I know, but I had googled very intensely about this trojan
    (therefore I could kill it off for good so very fast - some people
    never get rid of it) and read everywhere that it only affects C: And
    nowhere I read that it did damage on files, specially by encrypting
    them (In this case, it would be called a virus). It slows down CPUs,
    but it did not even dwell in my shell long enough to start that.
    And it is absolutely impossible that this annoyance (classified by
    Avira as "not very dangerous" and by Kaspersky as so unimportant that
    it doesnt even list it, only people who get money for their help
    classify every malware as very dangerous) that this trojan would have
    been so modest to affect only my personal files inside "my documents".
    I have hundreds of files in other folders, and thousands of files on
    my external harddisk - they are not encrypted. So I came to the
    resolution that I must have been that headless virus myself. So I
    shook my alzheimerbrain very thoroughly and got a faint memory that I
    once encrypted my personal files I don't know why. The wicked system
    did not tell me that I would have to store my certificate or else I
    would surely have done it. I am a security fan.

    Well, I have always been a lucky dog, so in this very important matter
    I hope that all I will have lost in the end will be my precious time.
    There's an image in the darkness ...

    So long
    Luise
     
    fixfox, Mar 23, 2010
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  8. Thanks for the hint. For the moment, I have placed an inquiry in the
    Acronis forum and I will see how their clever experts can help me.

    ***
    I think you are on the right track now. Acronis images are browseable
    and folks at their forum may be able to walk you through the process.

    Might be easier just to reload the image, logon, and decrypt from there
    though. Good luck.
    ***
     
    FromTheRafters, Mar 23, 2010
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  9. ....nowhere I read that it did damage on files, specially by encrypting
    them (In this case, it would be called a virus).

    ***
    It would be called a virus if it replicated via infection. If it was a
    virus, and also encrypted your files, it would be an instance of
    cryptovirology *and* ransomware if it wanted payment for the decryption
    key.
    ***

    [...]

    The wicked system
    did not tell me that I would have to store my certificate or else I
    would surely have done it. I am a security fan.

    ***
    IIRC W2K's EFS, by default, assigns the administrator as a recovery
    agent (sort of like a backup key). but gives no warning to the user
    about the importance of key backup. Vista and beyond do *not* assign a
    recovery agent by default, but do advise the user about key backup.
    ***

    [...]
     
    FromTheRafters, Mar 23, 2010
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  10. fixfox

    fixfox Guest

    Thank you for the extra workshop. Expert contra common
    imprecision! ;-)
    Why can't Microsoft give an warning AND assign an recovery agent? Art
    lives on gaps, but technique should not.
     
    fixfox, Mar 23, 2010
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  11. fixfox

    fixfox Guest

    Hi David,
    your very little remark about encryption was the clue. I suited my
    intuition and so I followed that trace - and luckily I could get back
    the keys from my old C: image and an almost hopeless venture went
    well.

    Hi everybody, thank you for your help. My problem ist SOLVED. Every
    single little file is decrypted! The sun shines bright in the middle
    of the night, I could sing and dance. I did not only have the almost
    forgotten image but also found a very good software (almost the only
    one that exists for that purpose) following a link from one of you. It
    finds even deleted keys and all the green files in a very short time
    and repairs the lot of 15 GB within half an hour. It is called
    Advanced EFS Data Recovery, I don't know if I am allowed to tell you
    the publisher here, but you can google.
    Well, my ignorance cost me 150 EURO :-( but sometimes we have to learn
    something the hard way. At least, I don't waste time any more and have
    saved a ten years' work and that makes me infinitely glad.
    So long
    Luise
     
    fixfox, Mar 24, 2010
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  12. fixfox

    fixfox Guest

    Hi Dave, just a little link for your nosy nose:

    www.frafithe.de

    You may have read it in my previous post, I am finished :D
    Full success, a whole army of files saved.
    I go and drink champaign now and then have the first sound sleep for
    days.
    Luise
     
    fixfox, Mar 24, 2010
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  13. From: "fixfox" <>



    | Hi David,
    | your very little remark about encryption was the clue. I suited my
    | intuition and so I followed that trace - and luckily I could get back
    | the keys from my old C: image and an almost hopeless venture went
    | well.

    | Hi everybody, thank you for your help. My problem ist SOLVED. Every
    | single little file is decrypted! The sun shines bright in the middle
    | of the night, I could sing and dance. I did not only have the almost
    | forgotten image but also found a very good software (almost the only
    | one that exists for that purpose) following a link from one of you. It
    | finds even deleted keys and all the green files in a very short time
    | and repairs the lot of 15 GB within half an hour. It is called
    | Advanced EFS Data Recovery, I don't know if I am allowed to tell you
    | the publisher here, but you can google.
    | Well, my ignorance cost me 150 EURO :-( but sometimes we have to learn
    | something the hard way. At least, I don't waste time any more and have
    | saved a ten years' work and that makes me infinitely glad.
    | So long
    | Luise

    Woohoo !
    Excellent.

    15GB decryption in 30mins ? That is FAST.

    Data encryption is PITA for sure. I have to now deal with data encrypted via a Smart
    Card. An EFS Certificate last 100 years. Far exceeding the life of the data. It it
    conceivable to get multiple Smart Cards in a yera. That's a REAL PITA.

    { And nothing useful came from 24hrs supprt - LOL }
     
    David H. Lipman, Mar 24, 2010
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  14. Yes, I was more opposed to her thinking that the amount of damage (or
    encryption) is what makes the thing a virus. The rest contained good
    search words for an understanding of virus+crypto+criminal activities.
     
    FromTheRafters, Mar 24, 2010
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  15. [...]

    ....way. At least, I don't waste time any more and have
    saved a ten years' work and that makes me infinitely glad.
    So long
    Luise

    ***
    Glad it all worked out, and you have yourself to thank for making the
    backup image(s)

    I don't suppose you will be forgetting to back up the key (certificate)
    this time?
    ***
     
    FromTheRafters, Mar 24, 2010
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  16. fixfox

    fixfox Guest

    THE key??? You are kidding! My system found about 30 keys, and there
    is never another user than myself! And there was never a warning. Did
    I have to fuddle for new certificates every day? I am fed up with
    this, you will certainly understand. This system creates certificates
    whenever it is in the mood! I am just unchecking "encryption" on the
    whole lot of own documents. My machine is rattling for all the
    inheritances ... never again!
     
    fixfox, Mar 24, 2010
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  17. fixfox

    fixfox Guest

    oh, teacher? That was long ago. Mrs. Wulle is right, haha. Many
    children call me so.
     
    fixfox, Mar 24, 2010
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  18. fixfox

    fixfox Guest

    No, it is Elcomsoft. Beware of their sharewareoffers in tucows etc.
    The price is everywhere indicated with 99$, and you can download it,
    but it is not what I consider to be shareware - it is the regular
    trial version (you can have a free download on their own website as
    well and install it and when you have paid, you just get the
    registration number). It finds all your existing and with someluck
    also the deleted keys and you can scan all the encrypted files and get
    an impression of its fastness. But the trial v. decrypts only the
    first 15 lines of each file, so you cannot test if for instance a 30
    MB jpg can be properly decrypted.
    I would find it better if one could test the full decryption on some
    important files.
    I tried it with some very little txt files with less than 15 lines,
    and as that worked, I decided desperately to rely on the lot of
    positive comments of buyers, but was very surprised that the price was
    then 149 EURO with the TVA on top of it, that means 240 US$ !!!
    This is not what I call a honest marketing - but the software is
    awfully good.
     
    fixfox, Mar 24, 2010
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