Problem Sharing Files Between PCs

Discussion in 'Security Software' started by Peter Lauren, Oct 3, 2011.

  1. I'd suggest you let the router handle the firewall, not zone-alarm.
    Same with any windows firewalls; disable them and let the router take
    care of things. From what Ive read, trying to do what you want via
    "Workgroups" isnt going to be easy. You'd be better off either using 3rd
    party software with an idiot-proof interface or learning how to set up
    "Domains".

    HTH
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    §ñühwö£f, Oct 5, 2011
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  2. Peter Lauren

    Peter Lauren Guest

    Thank you for getting back to me about this. I tried the link and it
    mainly discusses how Windows 7 compares with Windows Vista. I have
    never used Vista. I learned a bit from the discussion of the features
    but it did not actually explain how to set up a network with the other
    computers in the work group or how to make them visible. It seems
    that a home group would not work for me since that appears to require
    that all PCs in the group are running Win. 7.

    A couple of questions I have about the link.
    1/ On page 2, it says that the dialog box saying which network I am on
    has a Change button. Mine does not.
    2/ On page 2, it says that the Advanced Sharing Options dialog box
    maintains Home, Public and Domain network profiles. My system does
    not have a Domain network profile.
    I wonder if the differences could be because I have a home edition.

    In the Advanced Sharing Options, I have Network Discovery turned on
    for both available domains. But I still cannot see the XP PC although
    the XP PC is reading files off my Windows 7 PC.

    Thanks,
    Peter.
     
    Peter Lauren, Oct 6, 2011
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  3. Bingo!

    IIRC Vista Home could not join a domain and had no domain policy tool, I
    was just wondering if W7 had a similar aspect.
     
    FromTheRafters, Oct 6, 2011
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  4. Peter Lauren

    Peter Lauren Guest

    Would it not make the system less secure if I disabled the software
    firewalls unnecessarily?
     
    Peter Lauren, Oct 6, 2011
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  5. Not if you have the hardware firewall set up properly. The more I think
    about your "issue" the more it seems that what you want is a VPN.


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    §ñühwö£f, Oct 6, 2011
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  6. I'd say thats very likely. XP Home also lacked networking options that
    Pro has.
    I'd pick a computer and get the necessary software to turn it into a file
    server and just use it for that. VPN would do it. Apache would also work.
    Not really seeing why you wish to network these two computers just to
    serve up some files to the Internet. Thats a job you can do with one
    dedicated "server" pc.


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    §ñühwö£f, Oct 6, 2011
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  7. I'm xposting this so the A2600 crowd can chime in...better h4Xrz over
    there...

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    §ñühwö£f, Oct 6, 2011
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  8. Here, read this;
    <http://www.somacon.com/p41.php>

    Running IIS on Windows XP Professional

    Many people do not know that Windows XP Professional includes a fully
    functional web server, Microsoft IIS 5.1. For a small office or home,
    this is incredibly convenient. If you're a developer who wants to try web
    development with HTML, Javascript, Active Server Pages (ASP), or
    VBScript, having IIS can allow you to experiment quickly with files on
    your local system. Of course, you could always download and install the
    free and robust Apache web server, but IIS is somewhat simpler and the
    documentation is better.



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    §ñühwö£f, Oct 6, 2011
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  9. Peter Lauren

    Peter Lauren Guest

    W7 is beginning to look like a step backwards from XP in this
    respect. My XP is a home edition as well.
     
    Peter Lauren, Oct 6, 2011
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  10. Peter Lauren

    Peter Lauren Guest

    I'm new to this so maybe setting the HW firewall up properly is the
    trick. I told Mr. Rabbit what I have on my router. That is:
    The PCs are connected through a Linksys router with an SPI firewall.
    The available Internet filters are
    - Filter anonymous Internet requests
    - Filter multicast
    - Filter Internet NA redirection
    - Filter Indet (Port 113)

    It can also block the following applications: NDS, ping, gttp, https,
    ftp, pop, imap, nntp, telnet, shmp, tftp and IKE.

    Would the correct settings there work?

    I've been reading about VPNs. They seem to be mainly for tunneling to
    remote locations but could conceivably be used between computers. The
    important thing is that I want the web server to be accessible from
    the Internet and to be able to call php and html scripts from the app.
    server. But I do not want hackers to be able to access code on the
    app. server. If they could access code on the shared folders, that
    would not necessarily be a problem. But if they could access files in
    the unshared folders it definitely would.

    Seems VPNs need ceritficates and/or passwords to access the target
    site. If they could be sent from the web server then it seems that
    hackers could get them from the web server.

    Thanks,
    Peter.
     
    Peter Lauren, Oct 6, 2011
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  11. Peter Lauren

    Peter Lauren Guest

    I have WAMPServer installed. I want to use PHP and MySQL as well.
    PHP calls executables that were written in C++. I do not want hackers
    to be able to access these executables and reverse engineer the code.

    Thanks,
    Peter.
     
    Peter Lauren, Oct 6, 2011
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  12. Peter Lauren

    hp Guest

    On 10/6/2011 6:05 PM, G. Morgan wrote:

    SNIP



    To Those that participated in this discussion with helpful dialog,

    THANKS!

    I added all the pertinent information into an archive I made so I can
    learn something else about using computers!
     
    hp, Oct 7, 2011
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  13. Peter Lauren

    Robert James Guest

    On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 05:04:37 +0000; I imposed a declaration in opposition
    to §ñühwö£f's motion to modify THE PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION in support of
    the CROSS MOTION TO VACATE THE PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION. So noted by the
    Federal Court of Usenet Justice proceeding preliminary declaration,
    j6jct4$rc6$:
    Only prop, is that most of us who could can only walk the guy though
    getting sharing working in *nix systems. I can help accessing *hump*
    "protected" Microsuck shares with various command-line networking toolz
    on my setup.

    As far as simple Windblows issues with networked frackerhood I'd need to
    take a quick look in person; and that costs beer money and bus fare,
    buddy!

    (Unless of course I get a call from some hot readheaded college girl with
    PC issues, there are "alternative" payment methods I accept!)
     
    Robert James, Oct 7, 2011
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  14. Peter Lauren

    FrozenNorth Guest

    Oh FFS, Home Edition of Win7 cannot join a domain, peer-to-peer
    networking it is trivial.
     
    FrozenNorth, Oct 7, 2011
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  15. Peter Lauren

    Robert James Guest

    On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 22:30:42 -0400; I imposed a declaration in opposition
    to FrozenNorth's motion to modify THE PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION in support of
    the CROSS MOTION TO VACATE THE PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION. So noted by the
    Federal Court of Usenet Justice proceeding preliminary declaration,
    j6lo8h$98t$:
    Home editions are mostly installed just on cheep netbook and discount
    systems. Always suggest if you have the almost useless home edition to
    grab a clean torrent of the Ultimate version. Heck, with home; changing
    your desktop wallpaper or getting general networking setup is a whole
    process of hacks/addons in itself.
     
    Robert James, Oct 7, 2011
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  16. Peter Lauren

    FrozenNorth Guest

    Bullshit, networking is easy with home edition, for a small workgroup.
    My wife's OS X iMac, my Home Win7 lappy, and old XP Home Desktop, and
    two Linux boxes are networked with several peripherals, including
    network MF Printer and a couple security cameras, no problems.
     
    FrozenNorth, Oct 7, 2011
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  17. Peter Lauren

    Sycho Guest

    This just in to the alt.2600 news room. On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 22:55:46
    -0400 it was announced to all in a public briefing, FrozenNorth
    How many cases of Hacker Beer (tm) did that require? :)
     
    Sycho, Oct 7, 2011
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  18. Peter Lauren

    FrozenNorth Guest

    None of it happened overnight, all acquired in bits and pieces, but the
    mental lubrication didn't hurt. :)
     
    FrozenNorth, Oct 7, 2011
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  19. Peter Lauren

    Peter Lauren Guest

    Sorry. I did not word my question very well. What you outline gets
    me to the "Change sharing options for different network profiles"
    dialog at the top of page 2 of the link.I was wanting to get to
    Network in the explorer dialog at the top of page 3 where is says,
    "Now if you go into Network in Windows 7 you should see your XP
    machine and the Windows 7 as well..."

    Thanks,
    Peter.
     
    Peter Lauren, Oct 7, 2011
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  20. Peter Lauren

    Robert James Guest

    On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 22:55:46 -0400; I imposed a declaration in opposition
    to FrozenNorth's motion to modify THE PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION in support of
    the CROSS MOTION TO VACATE THE PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION. So noted by the
    Federal Court of Usenet Justice proceeding preliminary declaration,
    j6lpng$gs3$:
    Horse manure, home edition does not have.... O' wait <runs to Wikipedia>,
    ya may bad. I was comparing home edition... thinking it was "starter".
    Damn it, well with all these editions from Microballz I can't keep up. Ya
    may bad, two or three drinks in me tonight and it's easy to mix up
    "starter" and "home" editions, even more so if you mainly use Linux...
     
    Robert James, Oct 7, 2011
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