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Discussion in 'Virus Information' started by Joseph, Mar 18, 2010.

  1. Joseph

    David Kaye Guest

    I'm not sure if I mentioned it here or not but when Shaun White won the
    Olympics snowboarding competition, I went to Google Images to see some photos
    of him in action. The third photo culled by Google looked good. I clicked on
    it and at first the photo showed up. Then about 3 seconds later a web page
    appeared with the scan ruse on it. So, Google had indexed yet another malware

    All I had to do was click the X box to go away and no harm was done. Many
    people would not have done so, but might have clicked something inside the
    page. This is where the social engineering comes in: getting people to make
    that first click.

    Google, to their credit, took it down the next day. I wish they'd scan the
    web pages they index as well as they scan their users' computers. But, that
    apparently isn't a priority with Google.
    David Kaye, Mar 21, 2010
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  2. Joseph

    David Kaye Guest

    Really? That's funny. I have ads in 3 local phone books and naturally my
    phone is ringing a lot, but I don't see any increase in malware calls over,
    say, a year ago.

    I live in San Francisco; maybe being at the heart of the Internet, people here
    are more aware of these problems and take care of themselves better?
    David Kaye, Mar 21, 2010
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  3. Joseph

    David Kaye Guest

    All I can report back is the service calls I get. My phone number is out
    there in over 1,500,000 phone books. I get plenty of service calls, but
    they've shifted toward more sophisticated networking, hardware fixes, etc.

    Now, if people are going to Geek Squad first, then so be it. However, I spoke
    with the regional manager of Geek Squad recently and he told me that his
    malware calls are also down compared with hardware integration calls. He gets
    a lot of people who want to set up their XBoxes, TiVo, stereos, etc.

    There may be a difference in this region, though. We live and breathe
    Internet here in San Francisco, since the region is home to Craigslist, Yahoo,
    Google, YouTube, SecondLife, and just about every other major high traffic
    website. So, it may just be that our users are more sophisticated in that

    I will say that in nearly all cases, my new customers are running at least XP
    with all its service packs and updates. I had only a sum total of 4 customers
    who got hit by the malware that affected the 177165 patch (I think that's the
    number). One was an existing customer, the other were new.
    David Kaye, Mar 21, 2010
  4. Joseph

    Leythos Guest

    Heart of the internet is not the same as having a lot of Internet
    BUSINESSES. The "Heart" of the internet has nothing to do with the web,
    there is SO MUCH MORE TO THE INTERNET. We just see it differently, I'm
    guessing, because I was using the internet long before the first web
    server was ever created.
    It's possible you work with a different age group than I do. I mostly
    work with Medical and Manufacturing groups.
    Leythos, Mar 21, 2010
  5. Joseph

    David Kaye Guest

    Uh, yes. Craigslist, SecondLife, Google, Yahoo, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook,
    Tribe, Laughing Squid, Zynga -- I'd say that these firms probably account for
    up to 80% of Internet traffic. And they're either based in SF or within 30-40
    miles of SF.

    It's actually very weird listen to the BBC World Service and hearing nearly
    every Web mention be of some company based here.

    It is unusual to meet 10 people at random and not learn that a good 30-40% are
    working for an Internet company of one kind or other. Google, Yahoo, and
    Microsoft have special regular bus services lugging their workers between
    their Peninsula campuses and worker homes in SF. In fact, neighborhood
    residents of Noe Valley (24th Street) are complaining that too many Google and
    Yahoo commute buses are clogging their streets.

    I have no idea where you live, but the Internet is so ubiquitous here that
    there are cafes that boast that they do NOT have wi-fi.

    Even people who don't work in tech know how to stay out of trouble with the
    clicks. It may just be part of our local culture now.
    David Kaye, Mar 21, 2010
  6. Joseph

    David Kaye Guest

    No, I don't have any Web prejudice. I was also using the Internet pre-Web.

    By "heart of the Internet" I'm talking about USE of the Internet. Whether you
    want to admit it or not, the websites I mentioned make up the bulk of the USE
    of the Internet in terms of bytes sent by known entities.

    A good argument can be made for bit-torrents being a great deal of Internet
    traffic, but the torrents are not centralized entities, so it's hard to
    consider themselves the heart of anything.
    David Kaye, Mar 22, 2010
  7. Joseph

    MEB Guest

    I think an equally good argument could be made for the failure to
    release ALL of the information of hacks, malware, and other activities
    that have occurred to these major players, which has given the wrong
    idea to many.
    These parties appear to only admit such successful attacks when large
    segments are taken down or the public notices the issue; otherwise there
    is a remarkable silence, in part due to market share and other monetary

    Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
    The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
    MEB, Mar 22, 2010
  8. Porn, the decentralized heart of the internet.
    FromTheRafters, Mar 22, 2010
  9. Joseph

    Leythos Guest

    I've read that Google only makes up 1%-6% of all internet traffic.

    In the last 2 years, P2P traffic has decreased from 40% of all world
    wide traffic to just under 20%. It should also be noted that about 20%
    of all internet traffic is Video content.

    Overall, about 50% of all internet traffic is "Web" content, the rest is
    made up of email and private networks.
    Leythos, Mar 22, 2010
  10. From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic>

    | Porn, the decentralized heart of the internet.

    Pr0n -- the profit centre of the Internet !
    David H. Lipman, Mar 22, 2010
  11. Joseph

    David Kaye Guest

    Well, in that case, San Francisco again takes a leadership role. There's and its affiliated websites. is so big that they have 2 or
    3 fulltime production units working every day to create new material. A few
    years ago they bought the old National Guard Armory, which takes up an entire
    city block, to house their operation.

    And then there are a boatload of gay male sites as well,, and so forth.

    Yeah, I think we've got the corner on the Internet here in the Greatest Place
    On Earth (KPIX slogan).
    David Kaye, Mar 22, 2010
  12. Joseph

    David Kaye Guest

    I'm wondering if this is connections or actual byte transfers. Myself, I'm
    taking about byte transfers. Emails are simply not that byte intensive. But
    the web pages of today usually have a bunch of jpegs, along with video and
    audio content (just landing on Yahoo's home page you're subjected to a video
    of some guy walking across your email to tell you about insurance). It takes
    a lot of bandwidth to serve just the opening pages on a lot of sites.
    David Kaye, Mar 22, 2010
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