McAfee vwersion 11 and Win XP Pro Issues

Discussion in 'Security Software' started by MSM, Aug 11, 2006.

  1. MSM

    MSM Guest

    Hello:

    I use McAfee on-line virus protection program, and just recently I was
    upgraded to McAfee Virus Scan version 11. After it installed, a error
    message appears showing that my computer is no longer protected, and to
    re-install virus scan. I have re-installed at least 4 times, with still the
    same ultimate notification each time. Also, it is hampering my computer
    operations badly; all the programs run extremely slow, if not just freezing
    up for long periods of time, even become slower when two programs are open,
    and heaven forbid I should try to run three. I run Win XP Pro (version 2002,
    SP 2, 1.80 GHz speed (Intel® Celeron® CPU)), I have a Dell PC, I use a DSL
    firewall router, and I utilize all windows security updates, and I have IE
    Explore with 123-bit security.

    Any Help in this issue would be greatly welcomed.

    MarkM
     
    MSM, Aug 11, 2006
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  2. MSM

    Panda_man Guest

    My reply is at the bottom of your message :



    Hello ! The first thing to do is to uninstall McAfee .
    Open Control Panel -> Add/Remove programs and uninstall it . Reboot .

    After rebooting again there check for tracks for McAfee Security Center .
    Remove it also .

    Use the links / tools described here to completely remove your McAfee:
    http://pandaman.my.contact.bg/remAV.txt



    Check your computer for malicious software using the new instructions here
    http://pandaman.my.contact.bg
    (Report back your results)

    At the end , when you are clean , contact McAfee's TechSupport and ask for
    help for your McAfee product or buy another security software , NOD32 ,
    Kaspersky AV recommended and protect your PC
     
    Panda_man, Aug 11, 2006
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  3. MSM

    MSM Guest

    Hello:

    TRhanks for the info, however, i would like to keep McAfee for my virus
    protection. I was hoping to find a way to make it work like it did before
    the upgrade to Version 11.
     
    MSM, Aug 11, 2006
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  4. MSM

    Panda_man Guest


    No problem MSM , as you like it . Performing the instructions I gave you
    will only help , they can't make you not to use McAfee. Let me make them
    clearer:


    This is made to completely remove McAfee because your AV seems to be
    corrupted and yes , you need to now remove the corrupted one to go on doing
    maintanance.

    Here you can read two links which will point you to specific removal tool(s)
    which McAfee has created for its products . They are used when someone has
    problems and these tools helps you remove corrupted stuff .

    After performing these two , you'll have removed completely McAfee and you
    can try to install it again and paly with it but before that.......


    .. . . . . but before that you need to check your computer for malicious
    software - viruses /spyware , another malware because your computer might be
    compromised . McAfee is a popolar product and there are many viruses known to
    kill AVs like McAfee and you need to be completely sure :)
    Also , the link includes another link to my page where it is shown how to
    repiar Windows is different ways
    This is done because only McAfee can provide you the most accurate support
    and answers because they should know better than us , they do only McAfee
    And this is suggested in case you get desperate and nothing and nobody helps
    , and you can't use your computer with McAfee and you have no protection and
    then there will be no other way except from getting another AV :)



    Regards!!!
     
    Panda_man, Aug 11, 2006
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  5. MSM

    Panda_man Guest

    Pease ,excuse me for my English and the spelling mistakes .
    I always hurry when I write and I do make a lot of mistakes :)
     
    Panda_man, Aug 11, 2006
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  6. Mr. MSM,

    I believe Panda Man is right. Although McAfee is attempting to beat the
    hackers and they have released a new and improved version of their
    product(that includes a rootkit detection utility: hopefully a rootkit isn't
    already installed before McAfee is updated because the rootkit can fool
    McAfee, and SysInternals even admits that rootkits can be very difficult to
    detect since the kits can be designed to "take over" the executable that is
    searching for them), one of their security experts may have "excited" the
    hacker community when he published "Hacking Exposed".

    As far as McAfee technical support, I have heard that they are not very
    useful. I have heard stories of SysInternals RootKit tool detecting
    Inconsistencies between McAfee API level operations and kernal level
    operations. When tech support was contacted, they told the customer that
    McAfee couldn't be compromised and the SysInternals was faulty. A few days
    afterward, the news hit that McAfee corporation had been breached (some part
    ha been attacked and compromised). On another ocassion, a person blocked
    ports 1024-65535 after installing the new McAfee and couldn't get onto the
    internet. Upon further investigation, the user discovered that a McAfee
    process was using one of these ports. When the user contacted McAfee and
    asked which ports needed to be open on a perimeter firewall, the tech support
    told the user the ports used were classified and were constantly changing and
    the user should just "install McAfee and leave it alone, and don't worry
    about a perimeter firewall." When the user told McAfee that per had
    discovered that a certain McAfee process was constantly listening on a
    certain port and using that port regularly, the tech support told becme a bit
    bellicose.

    Don't get me wrong, I think McAfee is a good product(I like their
    hackerwatch project and their attempt to integrate a RootKit detection
    utility) and I know they have some intelligent security specialist (Stuart
    McClure being one.) In addition, as Panda Man has suggested, McAfee has a
    greater market share than other vendors. As such, hackers will captilize on
    this fact and develop code to enhance their chance of success when using
    sporadic worms and maleware that is constantly bouncing around the internet.

    I am sure the McAfee tech support team was just following orders and
    "smartly" minimizing advice because of potential social engineering attacks.
    I am starting to believe that a consumer should read "recommendations" for
    AV, Firewall, and maleware removal programs and then go to the middle of the
    list. I bet hackers read those suggestions since they know the marketing will
    drive the product to market.

    Anyhow, I would follow Panda Man's advice and do a clean install. If you
    really want to clean the drive, use a utility that randomly assigns
    characters according to DOD specifications and verifies the drive as clean.
    Rootkits can easily fool any Software based firewall/AV/Maleware program by
    "hooking" the page pointer between the process and instructions. Kind of like
    placing a picture in front of a security camera of the "normal surroundings
    (information)" seen by the security guard. Except the rootkits don't supply a
    picture, they actually supply real data.

    McAfee may be acting up because a rootkit is interupting its ability to
    communicate. The rootkit may not have the ability to intercept the data and
    completely "fool" the McAfee program. Still, if the rootkit was already there
    before McAfee was upgraded and working with out being noticed, the upgrade of
    McAfee may think it is just apart of the "normal" operating system.

    I am not an expert in security, so take what I say with a grain of salt. I
    am a person with a "highly vigilant" personality type. I AM NOT PARANOID
    THOUGH SO QUIT SAYING I AM..... :) JK
     
    QuidnuncSimcha, Aug 11, 2006
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  7. MSM

    Panda_man Guest


    Wow , I am really impressed . What a long post of yours !
    If you tell me you are not an expert , I'll not believe you . You are right
    in everything you wrote ! It is really nice for me to know a person like you
    :)
     
    Panda_man, Aug 11, 2006
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  8. MSM

    B.E. Guest

    I think you guys should check out http://www.opswat.com/ there are 2 or 3 products that may be a match. I think that OESIS Framework at http://www.opswat.com/products/oesis-framework provides a single interface to many antivirus and McAfee is in that list. Another option is, I think, Metascan at http://www.opswat.com/products/metascan which is more for ISV.
    I also found that McAfee is certified by OPSWAT at http://www.opswat.com/certified.

    I hope this helps.
    Regards,
     
    B.E., Sep 24, 2011
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