Discussion in 'Spyware' started by Jeff T, Jun 1, 2011.

  1. Jeff T

    Jeff T Guest

    I've got SUPERAntispyware and Malwarebytes. Does sit hurt anything to use
    Jeff T, Jun 1, 2011
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  2. Jeff T

    G. Morgan Guest

    Nope, in fact it's recommenced. Just don't run them at the same time,
    and disable the resident in the tray if you have it on (while scanning).
    G. Morgan, Jun 2, 2011
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  3. Jeff T

    Buffalo Guest

    Why is that?
    Buffalo, Jun 2, 2011
  4. Jeff T

    G. Morgan Guest

    Why is what?
    G. Morgan, Jun 2, 2011
  5. Jeff T

    Buffalo Guest

    Why should I shut down my SAS (real time) while using MBAM in on-demand
    Also, why not run two resident anti-malware programs at the same time?
    I've heard of problems of running multiple anti-virus programs at the same
    time, but none with just running multiple anti-malware programs like SAS
    and MBAM at the same time.
    Willing to learn. :)
    Buffalo, Jun 2, 2011
  6. Jeff T

    G. Morgan Guest

    Because you don't want SAS to kick-in when MBAM is doing it's thing. You
    should let them handle the files independently.

    I don't like running any malware programs in resident mode. System
    performance mostly. I've never run two resident malware proggys
    together and introduced malware intentionally, that would be a neat
    experiment to see which one locks the file first.
    G. Morgan, Jun 2, 2011
  7. Jeff T

    1PW Guest

    Hello Jeff:

    No valid reports have shown that their scanners interfere with the other.

    To that end, neither requires the other be in any exclusionary file.

    I've run the PRO versions of both together for years with zero trouble.

    1PW, Jun 4, 2011
  8. Jeff T

    Dustin Guest

    No. But, you really shouldn't have both resident. Pick one to register
    and the other to remain in free version mode only. As I worked for one of
    the two, I'd be biased if I said which you should choose to pay for. I
    leave it upto you.
    Dustin, Jun 5, 2011
  9. Jeff T

    Dustin Guest

    They have the potential to interfere with file scanning. IE: MBAM will
    try to open something SAS already knows to be bad, sas denies MBAM's
    request. It also will take longer, as SAS is monitoring files as they
    are opened.
    For the same reasons you shouldn't run two antivirus resident. They
    can/often will conflict with one another.
    Dustin, Jun 5, 2011
  10. Jeff T

    Dustin Guest

    Just depends which one has the lowest OS hooks in place. MBAM's low level
    file driver I think! is actually hooking lower than SASs...
    Dustin, Jun 5, 2011
  11. Jeff T

    Dustin Guest

    You really should *NOT* be running both of them resident. It's a data
    corruption road waiting to happen. Don't run two antivirus at same time,
    don't run multiple antimalware at the same time. I honestly don't know
    why some people think you double your protection by doing so. You don't.
    You drain resources, and cause potential problems for yourself, but you
    do NOT gain from doing it.
    Dustin, Jun 5, 2011
  12. Jeff T

    G. Morgan Guest

    How would one archive such a "hook"? By taking control away from
    Windows, to a low-level proprietary file driver? Is that how rootkits
    do it too?
    G. Morgan, Jun 5, 2011
  13. Jeff T

    Dustin Guest

    Yea.. I get into any specifics on how malwarebytes works internally and
    I'll be in a courtroom.. sorry man.. but.. er, if you figure it out on
    your own, thats on you. I just can't even point you in the right
    Dustin, Jun 6, 2011
  14. Jeff T

    Anonymous Guest

    You will be well aware that cybercrime has escalated exponentially over
    the past 6/7 years. Co-incidentally I'm sure(!)--> since, in fact,
    Malwarebytes was launched.

    Are you aware of anyone who has loaded MBAM onto a fresh/clean computer
    and then run the programme - the result should of course be that nothing
    untoward would have been found. Has that machine then been examined
    forensically to determine if MBAM has (just perhaps!) surreptitiously
    installed it's very own malware - maybe even a rootkit?

    In normal course, no one who might have used MBAM to erradicate malware
    would be remotely concerned once their computer appeared to be operating
    satisfactorily - would they?!!
    Anonymous, Jun 8, 2011
  15. Go play in a canal, Dave...
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Jun 8, 2011
  16. Jeff T

    Dustin Guest

    Hello David. I'm aware of the "cybercrime" LOL, threats even today.
    I require clarification. Are you saying you believe malwarebytes might
    be doing something nefarious, David?

    I'm having trouble understanding what you mean to say here. Please
    Dustin, Jun 8, 2011
  17. Jeff T

    Lewis Guest

    slmgr.vbs -skms <my kms server>
    slmgr.vbs -ipk 33PXH-7Y6KF-2VJC9-XBBR8-HVTHH
    slmgr.vbs -ato
    Lewis, Jun 8, 2011
  18. Jeff T

    G. Morgan Guest

    I would like to know the same thing. What mechanism allows the MBAM
    program (and others like it) to hook into the file system.

    That is not a trade secret I'm sure.
    G. Morgan, Jun 9, 2011
  19. Jeff T

    Dustin Guest

    Evidently you didn't catch my clarification request... MBAM has
    proprietary technology which allows it to hook lol (hehehe.. damn, I
    wish I could tell you) the file system. MBAM is NOT malicious and
    doesn't install a rootkit or do anything else. I just can't tell you
    any specifics man, sorry. If you think it's malicious, your about as
    bright as BD.

    Did you seriously not catch what I really intended with my question?
    Sadly, it is. Everybodies is. SuperAntispyware isn't going to cough up
    their specs either. LOL.
    Dustin, Jun 9, 2011
  20. Jeff T

    G. Morgan Guest

    And I wish I knew!
    I don't think it's malicious, it's installed on my machines!

    Of course I did, we'll see what he comes up with. ;-)
    I'm not talking about revealing code, I'm more interested in the
    methodology. I guess I will have to do my own research. Maybe I can
    get you to confirm or deny my suppositions when I learn a little more?
    G. Morgan, Jun 9, 2011
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