Infected XP owners left unpatched

Discussion in 'Virus Information' started by ~BD~, Apr 16, 2010.

  1. ~BD~

    ~BD~ Guest

    Some of the latest security updates for Windows XP will not be installed
    on machines infected with a rootkit virus.

    A rootkit is sneaky malware that buries itself deep inside the Windows
    operating system to avoid detection.

    Microsoft said it had taken the action because similar updates issued in
    February made machines infected with the Alureon rootkit crash
    endlessly.

    The latest updates can spot if a system is compromised by the Alureon
    rootkit and halt installation.

    said it had taken the action because similar updates issued in February
    made machines infected with the Alureon rootkit crash endlessly.

    The latest updates can spot if a system is compromised by the Alureon
    rootkit and halt installation.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8624560.stm
     
    ~BD~, Apr 16, 2010
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    MEB Guest

    I'm curious to know:

    1. Whether you believe it is more viable to leave an infected system
    un-patched with a notification of WHY the failure occurred; verses,

    2. Patching an infected system giving a false sense of security AND
    leaving the system infected, AND the resultant security compromised
    within the infected computer - i.e., a non-existent security/fix?

    It would appear that unless one cleans the infection(s) FIRST, it is
    rather ignorant to install supposed security and other fixes/patches
    when they would be useless anyway [having already been compromised by
    the infection(s)].

    We CAN'T expect an auto-cleanup/removal of the infections PRIOR to
    patching as that MAY destroy personal data or other untoward activities.

    So what EXACTLY would you suggest be done verses this purported
    activity of not patching infected systems?

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    MEB, Apr 16, 2010
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  3. Is that like a trojan rootkit virus? Non-replicating viruses?

    ....only in biology will you find such beasts.
    My Avira "nag screen" says if I upgrade, I can be protected against
    "rotkits".

    (who says security programs can't be entertaining?)
    It was kinda funny that people blamed MS for something they should have
    blamed themselves for.

    [...]
     
    FromTheRafters, Apr 16, 2010
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  4. From: "~BD~" <>

    | Some of the latest security updates for Windows XP will not be installed
    | on machines infected with a rootkit virus.

    Either it is a trojan or it is a virus. There is no "rootkit virus" like there is no Ford
    Chrysler.
     
    David H. Lipman, Apr 16, 2010
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  5. ~BD~

    ~BD~ Guest

    I'd like to see infected systems disabled so that they can no longer
    connect to the Internet!

    A 'Warning' + advice on what to do to correct matters would be a welcome
    extra!
     
    ~BD~, Apr 16, 2010
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  6. ~BD~

    MEB Guest

    The Internet disablement is *NOT* going to happen, too much potential
    for litigation. I though, would also like to see some REAL efforts to
    regain control in this battle we are losing.

    And what recommendation would YOU suggest, when a rootkit has also
    likely brought other crimeware into the system on a PER system and/or
    network basis, and you have NO IDEA what may or may not cause additional
    issues in any given system.
    Were it a simple matter of supplying a non-failable cleanup tool or
    tools, then we wouldn't be having the millions of infected computers in
    the first instance.

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    MEB, Apr 16, 2010
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  7. From: "~BD~" <>


    | I'd like to see infected systems disabled so that they can no longer
    | connect to the Internet!

    | A 'Warning' + advice on what to do to correct matters would be a welcome
    | extra!


    That would have to be done by the ISP, not by Microsoft and is done when the subscriber is
    found to be a zombie spambot.

    Posted any more p.o.r.n lately ?
     
    David H. Lipman, Apr 16, 2010
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  8. ~BD~

    ~BD~ Guest

    So ............ will you contact the BBC to advise them of their error?

    I doubt it.
     
    ~BD~, Apr 16, 2010
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  9. ~BD~

    ~BD~ Guest

    THIS David has NEVER posted porn - or *links* to same.

    The latter is what YOU did, Mr Lipman - that was BAD sh*t!



    (the Easter card of two Easter bunnies was NOT porn - it was a bit of
    fun!)
     
    ~BD~, Apr 16, 2010
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  10. You tell 'em - you're closer. :eek:P
     
    FromTheRafters, Apr 17, 2010
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  11. ~BD~

    ~BD~ Guest

    What rubbish!

    Most certainly there was no reason for banning me from the Malwarebytes
    forums, that's for sure.

    There's something that doesn't quite ring true about an organisation
    which does not correspond in a civilised manner with the users of its
    product.

    Maybe someone like David Kaye has the experience to determine if a
    machine is actually *clean* after installing and running MBAM. Someone,
    surely, has carried out an independent check to give such a widely used
    facility a clean bill of health. Whilst MBAM is obviously highly
    effective at removing 'malware' why is it considered impossible for the
    downloaded software to leave its *own* gremlin within the cleaned
    machine?

    Is Malwarebytes approved by Microsoft itself? If so, please cite
    reference.
     
    ~BD~, Apr 17, 2010
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    Dustin Cook Guest

    Uhh, no. You shouldn't be posting frontal nudie pics in a public forum.
    Period. Soft, hard porn; makes no difference. If I ran a forum and you
    did that, not only would I have banned you for it; I'd even send a form
    letter to your ISP informing them of your trespass. They deleted it once
    for you Dave, you went and posted it again. At that point, as David
    Lipman already said; you were history.

    *I* didn't ban you, didn't have anything to do with your being banned;
    However, you wrote that I did. That's dishonest, Dave. As I told Jenn
    previously, *you are* a dishonest person. It's in your nature. You try
    and paint me out to be a bad guy; because you have limited information on
    me, but it's really you doing bad things.

    You have been told time and time again what pcbutts does, shown proof
    beyond any doubt whatsoever, and yet you still try and paint me as a bad
    guy. Heh, I never stole anybody elses work and claimed it as my own;
    lamer.
    I'm sorry? Civilised and yourself? very laughable; thank you.
    What civilised person would go and write the garbage in pcbutts blog and
    here? What on earth would make you want to question the integrity of
    malwarebytes? They have worked hard to get where they are; very hard. And
    you have no right posting this nonsense, none whatsoever.
    Malwarebytes has thousands of happy users, gets praise every single day
    on many forums; continues to be one of the top rated downloads for
    antimalware at cnet.com. What you claim just doesn't jive with reality.
    Your consiperacy theory BS aside, that is.
     
    Dustin Cook, Apr 17, 2010
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    Peter Foldes Guest

    {Crossposting removed}

    You friggin idiot and Troll , Why did you have the need to crosspost this in the
    middle of the thread and for what reason. You are unfriggin believable
     
    Peter Foldes, Apr 17, 2010
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  14. Malwarebytes is approved by Microsoft at least to the extent that if you
    open a support ticket and your problem is malware, it is one of the programs
    (the first program, I think) the techs will recommend to clean the
    infection.

    Your sociopathic behavior causes you to be shunned by anyone with even half
    a brain, over and over again. I'm amazed that you are unable to learn from
    experience.
     
    Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries, Apr 17, 2010
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    Max Wachtel Guest

    I did. :D
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    Max Wachtel, Apr 18, 2010
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  16. I doubt that it does any good. An exercise in futility - it's not the
    weight, it's the reps. :eek:)
     
    FromTheRafters, Apr 18, 2010
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