Has David Lipman been providing malware to known malware criminals?

Discussion in 'Spyware' started by 4Q, Mar 24, 2007.

  1. 4Q

    4Q Guest

    I asked David Lipman in a round about way
    if he had been providing malware to known
    organized criminals. He avoided giving
    a straight answer to a question I
    possed by asking me to leave him out of
    investigations into people spreading
    malware to known malicious malware
    spreaders *laughably calling themselves

    So if Lipman would like to answer the
    question I put to him in. (URL follows)


    with a denial that he hasn't been sending
    malware... Something along the lines of
    "No I haven't..."

    Interestingly Lipman's website appears
    to have been taken offline all of a
    sudden! And replaced with
    "Unavailable.html", very strange.

    4Q, Mar 24, 2007
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    Leythos Guest

    You are a complete loon.
    Leythos, Mar 24, 2007
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    pcbutts1 Guest

    He got busted stealing software, it was shutdown for a DMCA violation. I
    heard about an mentioned it then Leythos the stalker confirmed it. I think
    it's mighty particular that Leythos seems to know a lot about it. Just like
    he knew about the DMCA attempt to shut me down last week (which failed) I
    never mentioned anything about it but he some how knew. He also admitted he
    filed many complaints on me and he did mention a few months ago about filing
    a DMCA against me. He's what I think is going on. Leythos and David has
    filed many fake abuse reports to my ISP, the proof is in my blog
    http://pcbutts1-therealtruth.blogspot.com/, they all failed. He then files a
    DMCA violation which also failed. Him and David had a falling out in another
    NG here http://snipurl.com/tpit Leyhtos then filed another DMCA violation
    this time to David's hosting company, then he comes here and tries to place
    the blame on me.


    Newsgroup Trolls. Read about mine here http://www.pcbutts1.com/downloads
    The list grows. Leythos the stalker http://www.leythosthestalker.com, David
    H. Lipman, Max M Wachtell III aka What's in a Name?, Fitz,
    Rhonda Lea Kirk, Meat Plow, F Kwatu F, George Orwell
    pcbutts1, Mar 24, 2007
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    Leythos Guest

    LOL, and the complaint, filed on a Friday, left no time for a response
    before the weekend started. It will be resolved on Monday as the authors
    of WGET and proof that David created Multi-AV has already been presented.
    Yep, I know because the people in the community that you pirate from
    contact me to give me the details.
    The community proved that you prirated the software from Stuart and you
    had to remove it - claiming that you sold the technology of a "batch file"
    which everyone knows is BS.
    I personally can't file a DMCA complaint about you because you've never
    stolen anything from me - I would have no grounds for it.

    I have filed several complaints about content on your website due to the
    Pornographic Nature. This was also done by others. It worked well, as you
    removed the named material in short order.
    I've never filed a fake anything with your ISP/Hosting providers, I've
    always included your headers, your posting headers from other posts you
    made, and the truth was the hosting providers to deal with.
    LOL - David and I are friends, and you appear to have been the one
    impersonating David and myself again, and again, as you have in the past -
    since the posting host matches some of your other posts.

    So, why are your filthy pages not still up?

    So, why is your pirated code no longer online?
    Leythos, Mar 24, 2007
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    4Q Guest

    *heh* Cute. I ask questions that are
    linked to a known .NetL00n (Dustin Cook,
    winner and nominated for numerous
    koOK awards). And *I* get bashed by
    the unreliable witness 'Leythos' for
    rocking the malware/spyware boat.

    Anyone can checkout Lipman's site if they


    You will be greeted by "unavailable.html"
    I just wanted to know if the sudden
    disappearance was related to the question
    I put to him regarding spreading malware
    to known malware criminals?

    4Q, Mar 25, 2007
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    Leythos Guest

    No, it's related to a faked complaint that was filed late on Friday, and
    didn't provide enough time to resolve before the host legal department
    closed until Monday.

    Just give it a little time, the same exact site will be back online with
    all the links and information - unlike the PCBUTTS website.
    Leythos, Mar 25, 2007
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    4Q Guest

    Thanks Leythos for coming forward as
    David's representative are updating us
    with this information. Isn't it kind
    of ironic that here we are discussing
    DMCA takedowns and such, when the
    actual subject matter is"Did David Lipman
    supply malware to a known malware
    spreader, Dustin Cook" *the funny bit*
    When the criminal recently threatened to
    take my website offline with a Denial of
    Service attack, Terms of Service attack
    and a *laughing* DMCA attack!!!

    You must admit it's a sort of funny
    indirect link, btw are you authorised
    as David's mouthpiece to issue a denial
    that he's been distributing malware to
    the virus/malware spreading criminal
    Dustin Cook?
    Looking forward. :)

    4Q, Mar 25, 2007
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    Leythos Guest

    Are you really a loon?

    I'm not speaking for David at all, just telling what I've been made aware

    Also, what proof do you have the David has done anything?

    Why dont you put your effort on something constructive by going after the
    resident software pirate?
    Leythos, Mar 25, 2007
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    4Q Guest

    Leythos, mate you let yourself down
    with your scatty logic. Just a few posts
    ago you claimed "You are a complete loon"
    now you are asking if I am a loon?! Not
    even a "complete loon". Meanwhile you
    are dodging the real focus of this
    thread which is to assertain if David
    has spread malware to a R-E-A-L irresponsible
    loon, Dustin Cook.

    I see, so you haven't been made 'aware'
    of the situation relating to Dustin Cook
    braggarting about so called respected
    anti-malware spreading malicious code
    his way and David Lipman's involvement?
    (question mark)
    Mate, wind your neck in for a minute
    okay... I'm asking David Lipman if he
    has spread malware to dustin Cook, I've
    not accussed him. He can simply deny it
    if he hasn't. It's the loony Cook that
    is running around claiming respected
    anti-malware people are slipping him
    malicious binaries.

    You are talking about Butts yeah? Well
    tell you what, let's see if this
    mysterious company he alleges to sold
    Spyerase to, materializes. What kind of
    'fair' deadline shall we give him?
    If the deadline expires and Butts is
    still 'hot news' in this group, then we
    can start asking difficult questions,
    and have some fun at his expense, sound
    okay to you?

    4Q, Mar 25, 2007
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    Leythos Guest

    Until you show me that Dustin is a crook I can't accept your ideas or your
    methods. As best I can tell, Dustin is a stand-up person, repented for
    anything he may have done, and has been absolved for his past issues.

    I think you need to learn that people can change, read that as Grow Up,
    and become responsible adults, it happens all the time.
    Leythos, Mar 25, 2007
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    optikl Guest

    That's funny. I'd suggest you do some googling of long ago posts in ACV,
    like "RAiD+ I hate people+January 1, 1999 to December 31, 2001", for
    starters. Also for the same period "Dustin Cook + Graham Cluely". Maybe you
    believe in sociopaths and liars redeeming themselves, like changing clothes.
    Evidence abounds from numerous studies on criminal and deviant behavior to
    suggest otherwise. Take this as constructive criticism, not a slag or a
    optikl, Mar 25, 2007
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    Leythos Guest

    Having worked with LE for years, many, concerning internet/network related
    crimes, I'm very aware of the types of people that can't be cured of their
    mind-set, but, I've also seen many "hackers" change and remain good
    people. I'm fully aware of Dustin's past, but I have not seen anything to
    indicate that he's currently a problem. For 4Q to bring Davids name into
    it is completely uncalled for and a sign that 4Q is not being honest and
    is paraniod or out for blood rather than the truth.
    Leythos, Mar 25, 2007
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    optikl Guest

    Clearly, my comments had nothing to do with David, for whom I have the
    highest regard. Without disclosing my personal working relationships or
    educational background, I'd stake a paycheck or two or three that you're not
    on to guys like RAiD.
    optikl, Mar 25, 2007
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    Leythos Guest

    I think you misunderstand my statements - I never suggested anything from
    you about David, sorry if you took it that way.

    I've been working in the computer design and programming fields since the
    late 70's, written more than my share of things that might be questioned
    by some. Most of my work is in network security for Medical and Government
    installations. I would say that while I don't know a significant amount
    about RAID's actuall actions, what I've seen of the reformed person seems
    warrant a second chance.

    As a side note, David is also held in higest regard by myself.
    Leythos, Mar 25, 2007
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    yar Guest

    4Q 4Q
    yar, Mar 25, 2007
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    Art Guest

    I don't think Dustin has repented at all. He doesn't see any harm in
    viruses. He just hates spyware and Trojans :) I do tend to believe
    him when he says he has outgrown his interest in writing viruses.
    But that's quite a different thing from repenting. Apparently, then,
    he has no interest now in writing any kind of malware, including
    viruses. But that remains to be seen.

    Art, Mar 25, 2007
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    Leythos Guest

    So the question stands, what has he done lately to cause one to believe
    he's not on the good side?

    Nothing I've seen in the last couple years indicates he's nothing less
    than what he claims to be.
    Leythos, Mar 25, 2007
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    4Q Guest

    Here's an interesting one regarding Irok
    virus. Here he describes how he wrote it
    because he hates people. (always has,
    always will - after all Dustin Cook is
    a true sociopath)


    There is lots of evidence like this of
    the real sociopath Dustin Cook (aka Raid)

    And let's not forget his maliciousness
    towards Rhonda Lea Kirk a few months back
    when he printed her name & address into
    alt.sex newsgroups and asked perverts to
    stalk her in real life. Sociopathic Outer
    filth that he is.

    He's always been a deviant and he still
    continues to be one. This BugHunterShit
    bollocks is a front, maybe Leythos and
    the other sychophants have forgotten
    that Raidy runs a distribution network
    ( HHI ) for illegal download of films & music, amongst other things.
    And it's not
    because he is philanthropic, it's a
    selfish mechanism used as a form of
    currency to buy favour with other
    network traders (for whatever their
    stolen goods happen to be). Nice criminal
    friends you've got there Leythos ;]]
    4Q, Mar 26, 2007
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    4Q Guest

    See my reply to Optikl regarding recent
    activities of Raid[SLAM] (Dustbin Cook)
    the sociopathic turd. Btw do you know
    there is an illegal distribution of
    material circulating the Internet atm
    with a dedication to me(4Q) from your
    whiter than white hero Dustin Cook?
    *choke on that for a while before you
    tap out your next reply* Or are certain
    criminal acts okay so long as it's one
    of your friends?

    4Q, Mar 26, 2007
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    Leythos Guest

    I think you are clearly off your rocker. While I'm willing to give him a
    second chance and see how he does, I could not say that he's a "Friend" in
    the sense of a "Friend". Now, don't take that wrong, most people that are
    in communications in Usenet are not friends, few become friends, they just
    learn about each other enough to trust via electronic means.

    So, until you show me that he's created something malicious in the last
    couple years, with 100% certain proof that he created it, you would do
    better to just keep your mouth quiet - you're only making yourself look
    like some radical zealot, childish, and have lost any hope of bringing
    people to your point of view.
    Leythos, Mar 26, 2007
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