free anti virus software

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  1. Paul Mars

    Paul Mars Guest

    Are any of these adequate? My norton is so resource heavy and when it does
    find a threat, it does not know what to do and the info on their site is so
    vague. I am tired of paying for this. Can I uninstall it and get something
    free?

    Paul
     
    Paul Mars, Mar 13, 2006
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  2. Paul Mars

    Jim Macklin Guest

    I have been using AVAST and am pleased with the free
    version. My McAfee wants money for updated virus
    signatures and I have not been pleased with the way it
    updates, being very slow.


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    | Are any of these adequate? My norton is so resource heavy
    and when it does
    | find a threat, it does not know what to do and the info on
    their site is so
    | vague. I am tired of paying for this. Can I uninstall it
    and get something
    | free?
    |
    | Paul
    |
    |
     
    Jim Macklin, Mar 13, 2006
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  3. Free antiviruses:
    AVG (free.grisoft.com)
    Avast (www.avast.com)

    both have low detection rate !

    If you wish software low on resourses with good detection rate , Nod32 is
    welcome to come into your computer:
    http://www.eset.com

    Get a free 30 day trial version before you buy

    I have tested Norton many times and it is low on old computers but cannot be
    so low as you say on new computers.I am also not Symantec's fan but the truth
    is that you may wish also to buy more RAM .


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    =?Utf-8?B?UGFuZGFfbWFu?=, Mar 13, 2006
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  4. Paul Mars

    Paul Mars Guest

    Avast says free trial only. If I use AVG am I safe uninstalling norton?

    Norton has about 10 services running all the time. This seems way over kill.

    p
     
    Paul Mars, Mar 14, 2006
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  5. Paul Mars

    Paul Mars Guest

    Avast site says free trial only
     
    Paul Mars, Mar 14, 2006
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  6. Paul Mars

    Leythos Guest

    Norton does a lot, and the number of services, if it's not slowing down
    your machine, means nothing.

    What norton product do you have?

    Keep in mind that AVG has a much lower detection rate than Norton AV,
    and it's slower to get new updates.
     
    Leythos, Mar 14, 2006
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  7. Paul Mars

    Phil Weldon Guest

    So Norton AntiVirus has a number of processes running. So what? Use
    'Windows Task Manager' to check on the accumulated processor time used by
    the Norton processes over the course of an hour total computer use. You
    will see that processor usage by Norton is negligible, as is memory usage
    (if you have sufficient memory for the rest of your system load.)

    Phil Weldon

    | Avast says free trial only. If I use AVG am I safe uninstalling norton?
    |
    | Norton has about 10 services running all the time. This seems way over
    kill.
    |
    | p
    |
    | | > Free antiviruses:
    | > AVG (free.grisoft.com)
    | > Avast (www.avast.com)
    | >
    | > both have low detection rate !
    | >
    | > If you wish software low on resourses with good detection rate , Nod32
    is
    | > welcome to come into your computer:
    | > http://www.eset.com
    | >
    | > Get a free 30 day trial version before you buy
    | >
    | > I have tested Norton many times and it is low on old computers but
    cannot
    | > be
    | > so low as you say on new computers.I am also not Symantec's fan but the
    | > truth
    | > is that you may wish also to buy more RAM .
    | >
    | >
    | > Panda_man
    | > --
    | > Prevention is always better than cure !
    | > Panda TruPrevent - the most intelligent technology to combat unknown
    | > malware
    | > --
    | > http://pandaman.my.contact.bg
    | > http://www.activescan.com
    | >
    | >
    | >
    | > "Paul Mars" wrote:
    | >
    | >> Are any of these adequate? My norton is so resource heavy and when it
    | >> does
    | >> find a threat, it does not know what to do and the info on their site
    is
    | >> so
    | >> vague. I am tired of paying for this. Can I uninstall it and get
    | >> something
    | >> free?
    | >>
    | >> Paul
    | >>
    | >>
    | >>
    |
    |
     
    Phil Weldon, Mar 14, 2006
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  8. Paul Mars

    Paul Mars Guest

    norton av 2005, yea it does a lot, but is all that really needed? Like the
    Email scan that I turned of. It is a joke. Even thou it is off, its services
    may still be running.
     
    Paul Mars, Mar 15, 2006
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  9. Paul Mars

    Paul Mars Guest

    norton is part of the system load. About 20%.
     
    Paul Mars, Mar 15, 2006
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  10. Paul Mars

    Leythos Guest

    Yea, it may load the system, but does it make any real difference most
    of the time?

    When I look at AV solutions I ask myself the following:

    1) Response time to new threats
    2) How many items does it detect
    3) Do I already have experience with it and has that experience been
    acceptable

    I have mail scanning enabled on ALL computers that we support, yes, even
    the ones with POP/SMTP vs Exchange. I like to have things scanned
    inbound and outbound in case something is missed and there is an exploit
    in the mail client we've not been informed of yet.

    So, for me at least, it comes down to this: Is the NAV 2005 product
    protecting your computer and has it protected it to your satisfaction?
    If you say yes, then it would be good to keep using it, if not, then it
    would be good to evaluate another product.

    In my case, since we work with a couple Sororities, I've not seen where
    AVG protects the residents computers anywhere near as well as paid-for
    solutions, in fact, we get a call about every 3 months to clean an AVG
    protected computer.
     
    Leythos, Mar 15, 2006
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  11. Paul Mars

    Phil Weldon Guest

    'Paul Mars' wrote:
    | norton is part of the system load. About 20%.
    _____

    About 20% what OF what? Have you actually used 'Windows Task Manager' as I
    suggested? Whatever might be loaded when the system is started has little
    relationship with what is in memory or executed on demand. And there is
    always system 'Sleep' where memory, display memory, and machine state are
    saved to hard drive when the machine shuts down, then reloaded on restart.
    That eliminates any extra load time that might occur with a fresh restart.

    Really, you should learn to use tools like 'Windows Task Manager', it makes
    understanding what is actually going on much easier.

    Phil Weldon

    | norton is part of the system load. About 20%.
    |
    |
    | | > So Norton AntiVirus has a number of processes running. So what? Use
    | > 'Windows Task Manager' to check on the accumulated processor time used
    by
    | > the Norton processes over the course of an hour total computer use. You
    | > will see that processor usage by Norton is negligible, as is memory
    usage
    | > (if you have sufficient memory for the rest of your system load.)
    | >
    | > Phil Weldon
    | >
    | > | > | Avast says free trial only. If I use AVG am I safe uninstalling
    norton?
    | > |
    | > | Norton has about 10 services running all the time. This seems way over
    | > kill.
    | > |
    | > | p
    | > |
    | > | | > | > Free antiviruses:
    | > | > AVG (free.grisoft.com)
    | > | > Avast (www.avast.com)
    | > | >
    | > | > both have low detection rate !
    | > | >
    | > | > If you wish software low on resourses with good detection rate ,
    Nod32
    | > is
    | > | > welcome to come into your computer:
    | > | > http://www.eset.com
    | > | >
    | > | > Get a free 30 day trial version before you buy
    | > | >
    | > | > I have tested Norton many times and it is low on old computers but
    | > cannot
    | > | > be
    | > | > so low as you say on new computers.I am also not Symantec's fan but
    | > the
    | > | > truth
    | > | > is that you may wish also to buy more RAM .
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > | > Panda_man
    | > | > --
    | > | > Prevention is always better than cure !
    | > | > Panda TruPrevent - the most intelligent technology to combat unknown
    | > | > malware
    | > | > --
    | > | > http://pandaman.my.contact.bg
    | > | > http://www.activescan.com
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > | > "Paul Mars" wrote:
    | > | >
    | > | >> Are any of these adequate? My norton is so resource heavy and when
    it
    | > | >> does
    | > | >> find a threat, it does not know what to do and the info on their
    site
    | > is
    | > | >> so
    | > | >> vague. I am tired of paying for this. Can I uninstall it and get
    | > | >> something
    | > | >> free?
    | > | >>
    | > | >> Paul
    | > | >>
    | > | >>
    | > | >>
    | > |
    | > |
    | >
    | >
    |
    |
     
    Phil Weldon, Mar 15, 2006
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  12. Paul Mars

    Paul Mars Guest

    I use it regularly.

    symlcsvc 144k
    savsacn 204k
    navapsvc 10732k
    ccapp 7296k
    ccevtmgr 2080k
    spbbcsvc 332k
    sndsrvc 932k
    ccsetmgr3152k

    what is running right now for norton.
     
    Paul Mars, Mar 16, 2006
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  13. Paul Mars

    Phil Weldon Guest

    'Paul Mars' wrote:
    | I use it regularly.
    |
    | symlcsvc 144k
    | savsacn 204k
    | navapsvc 10732k
    | ccapp 7296k
    | ccevtmgr 2080k
    | spbbcsvc 332k
    | sndsrvc 932k
    | ccsetmgr3152k
    |
    | what is running right now for norton.

    _____

    As I posted, 20% of WHAT? I think your list includes numbers that are NOT
    physical memory footprints, but instead are virtual memory footprints.

    Here, for the same list, are the physical memory footprints of the Norton
    Antivirus 2005 in the system (640 Megabytes main memory/3.2 GHz Pentium 4/2
    GBytes fixed size page file/240 GBytes hard drive space/120 GBytes free hard
    drive space) I am using to post this message:
    ccapp.exe 2776K
    ccevtmgr.exe 1964K
    ccsetmgr.exe 780K
    navapsvc.exe 532K
    savsacn {?? typo ??}
    sndsrvc.exe 1300K
    spbbcsvc.exe 500K
    symlcsvc.exe 176K
    (I am not listing a few NAV processes you do not list)
    For a total of ~ 8000K vs ~ 25000K total for your list.

    Even if your list did correctly report physical memory footprints (and I can
    not see any way that could be possible), 25000K is only ~ 25 Megabytes;
    that would only be ~ 20% of a main memory size of 128 MBytes. It would be a
    only 5% of 512 Megabytes.



    Also, what is the TOTAL CPU time used by all of these processes? Over the
    course of hours of computer usage the total CPU time used by these processes
    is likely to be only a few seconds.

    Which is why I ask the question "20% of WHAT?"
    To be explicit
    20% of physical memory?
    20% of CPU time?
    20% of virtual memory?

    Phil Weldon

    |I use it regularly.
    |
    | symlcsvc 144k
    | savsacn 204k
    | navapsvc 10732k
    | ccapp 7296k
    | ccevtmgr 2080k
    | spbbcsvc 332k
    | sndsrvc 932k
    | ccsetmgr3152k
    |
    | what is running right now for norton.
    |
    | | > 'Paul Mars' wrote:
    | > | norton is part of the system load. About 20%.
    | > _____
    | >
    | > About 20% what OF what? Have you actually used 'Windows Task Manager'
    as
    | > I
    | > suggested? Whatever might be loaded when the system is started has
    little
    | > relationship with what is in memory or executed on demand. And there is
    | > always system 'Sleep' where memory, display memory, and machine state
    are
    | > saved to hard drive when the machine shuts down, then reloaded on
    restart.
    | > That eliminates any extra load time that might occur with a fresh
    restart.
    | >
    | > Really, you should learn to use tools like 'Windows Task Manager', it
    | > makes
    | > understanding what is actually going on much easier.
    | >
    | > Phil Weldon
    | >
    | > | > | norton is part of the system load. About 20%.
    | > |
    | > |
    | > | | > | > So Norton AntiVirus has a number of processes running. So what?
    Use
    | > | > 'Windows Task Manager' to check on the accumulated processor time
    used
    | > by
    | > | > the Norton processes over the course of an hour total computer use.
    | > You
    | > | > will see that processor usage by Norton is negligible, as is memory
    | > usage
    | > | > (if you have sufficient memory for the rest of your system load.)
    | > | >
    | > | > Phil Weldon
    | > | >
    | > | > | > | > | Avast says free trial only. If I use AVG am I safe uninstalling
    | > norton?
    | > | > |
    | > | > | Norton has about 10 services running all the time. This seems way
    | > over
    | > | > kill.
    | > | > |
    | > | > | p
    | > | > |
    | > | > | | > | > | > Free antiviruses:
    | > | > | > AVG (free.grisoft.com)
    | > | > | > Avast (www.avast.com)
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > both have low detection rate !
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > If you wish software low on resourses with good detection rate ,
    | > Nod32
    | > | > is
    | > | > | > welcome to come into your computer:
    | > | > | > http://www.eset.com
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > Get a free 30 day trial version before you buy
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > I have tested Norton many times and it is low on old computers
    but
    | > | > cannot
    | > | > | > be
    | > | > | > so low as you say on new computers.I am also not Symantec's fan
    | > but
    | > | > the
    | > | > | > truth
    | > | > | > is that you may wish also to buy more RAM .
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > Panda_man
    | > | > | > --
    | > | > | > Prevention is always better than cure !
    | > | > | > Panda TruPrevent - the most intelligent technology to combat
    | > unknown
    | > | > | > malware
    | > | > | > --
    | > | > | > http://pandaman.my.contact.bg
    | > | > | > http://www.activescan.com
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | > "Paul Mars" wrote:
    | > | > | >
    | > | > | >> Are any of these adequate? My norton is so resource heavy and
    | > when
    | > it
    | > | > | >> does
    | > | > | >> find a threat, it does not know what to do and the info on
    their
    | > site
    | > | > is
    | > | > | >> so
    | > | > | >> vague. I am tired of paying for this. Can I uninstall it and
    get
    | > | > | >> something
    | > | > | >> free?
    | > | > | >>
    | > | > | >> Paul
    | > | > | >>
    | > | > | >>
    | > | > | >>
    | > | > |
    | > | > |
    | > | >
    | > | >
    | > |
    | > |
    | >
    | >
    |
    |
     
    Phil Weldon, Mar 16, 2006
    #13
  14. If you're looking for a long lasting and permanent free anti-virus scanner
    AVG Free Edition is the way to go; if you're going to download AVG Free
    Edition I also recommend downloading A-Squared Anti-Malware Scanner which is
    free for personal use. Both can be found on the downloads page of my website:
    www.stopmalware.tk
     
    =?Utf-8?B?RWxlbmRpbA==?=, Mar 17, 2006
    #14
  15. Paul Mars

    Leythos Guest

    Why can't they be found at the vendors site - you taking lessons from
    butts?
     
    Leythos, Mar 17, 2006
    #15
  16. Paul Mars

    Phil Weldon Guest

    'Elendil' wrote, in part:
    | If you're looking for a long lasting and permanent free anti-virus scanner
    | AVG Free Edition is the way to go; if you're going to download AVG Free
    | Edition I also recommend downloading A-Squared Anti-Malware Scanner which
    is
    | free for personal use. Both can be found on the downloads page of my
    website:
    ..
    ..
    ____

    Several comments:
    1. You posted in the wrong place.

    2. Security software should never be downloaded from a link in html at a
    website other than the manufacturers or a well know distributor.

    3. Your website attempts to deliver pop-up ads.

    4. What is this "Love in your area" in your pop-up ad.

    Phil Weldon

    | If you're looking for a long lasting and permanent free anti-virus scanner
    | AVG Free Edition is the way to go; if you're going to download AVG Free
    | Edition I also recommend downloading A-Squared Anti-Malware Scanner which
    is
    | free for personal use. Both can be found on the downloads page of my
    website:
    ..
    ..
     
    Phil Weldon, Mar 17, 2006
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