Clarification of a few points.

Discussion in 'Spyware' started by ~BD~, Jul 7, 2011.

  1. ~BD~

    ~BD~ Guest

    And you feel it reasonable that you obtained it *without* paying? Why
    so? Wouldn't your ex-employer consider your action *stealing*?
    Not sure what point you are trying to make, Dustin. I am aware that
    there are two versions, one of which is free.
    I've asked if such a cleaning programme *could* do something nasty.

    You may be interested to learn that neither Symantec nor Kaspersky have
    declined to communicate with BD. Oh, nor has Sophos!
    Now _you_ are making an assumption, Dustin. Which of these *many*
    skilled folk has actually examined anti-malware software forensically?
    I have never suspected BugHunter of being malicious in any way.
    Folk *need* to know that software, only available on-line, which is
    purported to have been designed to *help* people, *is* squeaky-clean.

    I repeat my question. Which independent body has actually checked the
    software in the manner I suggested earlier? i.e. Downloaded the software
    onto a known clean computer and then forensically examined said machine.

    D.
     
    ~BD~, Jul 7, 2011
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    Aardvark Guest

    Well,that shows they all have auto-responders that work.
     
    Aardvark, Jul 7, 2011
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    Peter Foldes Guest

    Why the crosspost here BD ? This personal attack of yours towards Dustin has nothing
    to do with posting to this spyware group. Keep it in the scorched-earth

    ^%$(*&()
     
    Peter Foldes, Jul 7, 2011
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  4. What a pathetic, scared little shit this Dustbin character is. He's
    like a continually whining 6-year-old who is forever threatening to
    tell Mommy on one of his siblings. His life is filled with little else
    except fear, much like that of a delusional cobra who feels constantly
    confronted and threatened by some imaginary mongoose. Pathetic.
     
    Dave U. Random, Jul 7, 2011
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    Dustin Guest

    I reverse engineer software, David. I do it for my own private usage; but
    on a technical point, you've got me on copyright infringement; not
    stealing.
    Hence, the one I cracked obviously; wouldn't be the free version. Your
    comment about "seems strange" is thus, trolling.
    all the while, specifically naming malwarebytes for your "example". I
    doubt it was just a coincidence.
    They are very large companies by comparison. It's likely you just haven't
    made the rounds in all the helpdesk callcenters. You intentionally
    mislead people here, into thinking you are special. lol.
    I'm not making any assumptions. Haven't you learned yet? I won't tell you
    something that isn't true, *unlike* yourself. I know some people birddog
    me; they will for the rest of my time online. hehehe. If I fuckup,
    they'll nail me to a cross. I will not provide you any names nor software
    packages examined which are antimalware apps or antivirus apps. Except to
    say that many legitimate programs sometimes get submitted for analysis
    via the same means you'd send a malware sample. I've seen everything from
    autocad to notepad.. :(
    A bit pointless to do so, it has a clean track record. Indisputable. :)
    Well, David, a certain level of trust is required at this point. Either
    you trust malwarebytes or you don't.
    **** Off, David.


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    (Hey) I keep on thinking that it's
    (Hey) all done and all over now (whoa)
    You keep on thinking you can save me save me
    (Hey) My ship is sinking but it's
    (Hey) all good and I can go down (whoa)
    You've got me thinking that the party's all over
     
    Dustin, Jul 7, 2011
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    Aardvark Guest

    Of course not. He refuses to accept responsibility for getting himself
    booted from their forum, and instead made up some criminality on the part
    of MBAM as an excuse to try to get back at them.

    It's basically- I'm pissed off that you booted me and to get back at you
    I'll slimily diss your product in the hope I can punish you financially.
     
    Aardvark, Jul 8, 2011
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    Dustin Guest

    Yep, he's a pos trollish fuckhead. People should have the information
    they need to express how they feel either in person, on the phone, or
    via snail mail. It's difficult as hell not to press "send".
    Exactly.


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    (Hey) I keep on thinking that it's
    (Hey) all done and all over now (whoa)
    You keep on thinking you can save me save me
    (Hey) My ship is sinking but it's
    (Hey) all good and I can go down (whoa)
    You've got me thinking that the party's all over
     
    Dustin, Jul 8, 2011
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    Aardvark Guest

    When the optimum moment comes, you'll recognise it. Hold fire until you
    see the whites of their eyes.
     
    Aardvark, Jul 8, 2011
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    Jenn Guest

    I wouldn't have thought to ask the question he asked, but it seemed like a
    valid question to me.

    Is it possible for a malware cleaner program to put it's own 'root-kit'
    hidden somewhere and then say the system is clean?

    I don't know what a root-kit is, but I've been reading some of the thread
    off and on. Why get insulted that someone wants to put Malwarebytes to the
    ultimate analysis? If nothing is wrong and it isn't doing anything wrong,
    then the question should just be answered with a, "NO ... Malwarebytes
    doesn't do that and here is the proof".......

    I like Malwarebytes, myself, and have never had any problems using it, but
    I'm not into analyzing malware and such things either. It's a business...
    aren't they used to being put to the test?
     
    Jenn, Jul 8, 2011
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    Dustin Guest

    Sure, but then, that malware cleaner wouldn't last very long. It's
    subject to constant peer review and 3rd party independent analysis.
    I'm not surprised.
    I'm not insulted that someone wanted to put malwarebytes to some sort
    of test; As I said, it's already been peer reviewed, and is constantly
    under scrutiny; as all apps of it's nature are.

    If something was amiss, they wouldn't be able to hide it for very long.
    I already answered BD's question and my proof was that I disassembled
    the executable. BD in his slimey fashion won't accept the proof.
    They always are, Jenn. They aren't malicious and you only display more
    astounding ignorance carrying on like this. Computers seem to be
    magical to you and BD.. I just don't get that.


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    (Hey) I keep on thinking that it's
    (Hey) all done and all over now (whoa)
    You keep on thinking you can save me save me
    (Hey) My ship is sinking but it's
    (Hey) all good and I can go down (whoa)
    You've got me thinking that the party's all over
     
    Dustin, Jul 8, 2011
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    Jenn Guest

    .... just curious .. who's the 3rd party independent analysis done by?

    Well... I don't know if you've ever seen the movie, "The Net", or not...(one
    of my all time favorites), but in that movie there was a company that
    provided a security program to some high level companies. It was supposed
    to be the premier program to protect any business and keep it secure up to
    and including governments. The thing is, a back door was written into the
    program so the people who knew about the back door could gain access to
    systems using the software. Good movie ...

    That's why I asked about this ....
    The thing is ... I grew up when there wasn't any such thing as a home pc.
    Computers didn't start being a normal thing in the home 'til I already had 3
    kids... We learned about computers together as they grew up, so for me
    computers are a bit magical because they turned my world from being just a
    local experience into being a world wide experience. I love meeting people
    all over the world who I'd never have had the chance to meet otherwise.
     
    Jenn, Jul 8, 2011
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    ~BD~ Guest

    Absolutely *wrong* Aardvark - to the point of what you say being a
    downright lie. I posted a copy of the apology I sent to Marcin by PM.

    Usenet is the *last* place I'd use to 'diss' any product - do you not
    appreciate how very few folk read here? <shakes head>
     
    ~BD~, Jul 8, 2011
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    ~BD~ Guest

    Others may suspect that I've coerced you to support me on this Jenn.
    I think you are similar in many ways to the vast majority of your
    generation - without being in any way nasty, when using a computer at
    home I suspect you could realistically be described as a nomal/average
    user! :)
     
    ~BD~, Jul 8, 2011
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    Jenn Guest

    naaaaaaa You didn't ask me to say anything. You didn't ask Graham to say
    anything, either. I've been reading the thread off and on and was just
    wondering about it myself ... so I asked.
    mmmm maybe ... I probably do more on a computer than the average person in
    my age group does, tho... :)
     
    Jenn, Jul 8, 2011
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    Dustin Guest


    I'm not going to play semantics. What I said stands.
    I've seen it. As with other "hacker" movies, it's loosly based in
    reality.

    Well the thing is, Jenn, it made for a good movie, but wouldn't work in
    real life.
    Which is fine, but I've already dissassembled it; and as I worked for
    them, I've seen it in raw form. no backdoors.
    They weren't normal when I was little either, Jenn. You aren't an
    exception here and it doesn't matter.



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    (Hey) I keep on thinking that it's
    (Hey) all done and all over now (whoa)
    You keep on thinking you can save me save me
    (Hey) My ship is sinking but it's
    (Hey) all good and I can go down (whoa)
    You've got me thinking that the party's all over
     
    Dustin, Jul 8, 2011
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    ~BD~ Guest


    It's not a question of semantics.

    You stated that there had been 3rd party independent analysis.

    Who by, Dustin - and when?

    Or were you lying - something you say you do not do?
     
    ~BD~, Jul 9, 2011
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  17. If we tell you, then we'll have to kill you.
    It's by the NSA. (Now we'll have to kill you.)
    No, that's something you do.
     
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Jul 9, 2011
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    Jenn Guest

    You said it .. I was just asking who you were talking about... don't you
    know?
     
    Jenn, Jul 9, 2011
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    Dustin Guest

    Yep. I know. Jenn, the malwarebytes software is routinely tested by virus
    scanners when people submit the executable; Like you did with David
    Lipmans program. That is independent, 3rd party. [g] A clean bill of
    health is always provided.



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    (Hey) I keep on thinking that it's
    (Hey) all done and all over now (whoa)
    You keep on thinking you can save me save me
    (Hey) My ship is sinking but it's
    (Hey) all good and I can go down (whoa)
    You've got me thinking that the party's all over
     
    Dustin, Jul 9, 2011
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    Jenn Guest

    I'm glad to hear that because I like using malwarebytes, myself. I just
    wonder if "The Net" scenario could actually happen.
     
    Jenn, Jul 9, 2011
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