Best Virus program

Discussion in 'Virus Information' started by PattiChati, Oct 2, 2005.

  1. PattiChati

    PattiChati Guest

    Can anyone recommend a good virus program. I don't like Norton - it's a
    hog, and I am using Trend PC-cillin now and am not impressed.
    Any other ones I should look at? I have Windows XP
     
    PattiChati, Oct 2, 2005
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  2. From: "PattiChati" <>

    | Can anyone recommend a good virus program. I don't like Norton - it's a
    | hog, and I am using Trend PC-cillin now and am not impressed.
    | Any other ones I should look at? I have Windows XP
    |

    Kasperski and NODS32 in that order.
     
    David H. Lipman, Oct 2, 2005
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  3. PattiChati

    Lisa Simpson Guest

    AVG from grisoft.com
     
    Lisa Simpson, Oct 2, 2005
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  4. From: "PattiChati" <>

    | Can anyone recommend a good virus program. I don't like Norton - it's a
    | hog, and I am using Trend PC-cillin now and am not impressed.
    | Any other ones I should look at? I have Windows XP
    |

    Reference: "What's a good anti-spyware program"

    You have been replied to by PCBUTTS1 in the alt.privacy.spyware News Group and he is the
    Troll of that News Group. It would be best for you to add him to your killfile list.

    He has been told many times in many News Groups NOT to not request HiJack This (HJT) logs to
    be posted to the News Groups he posts to. The Microsoft News Server now summarily filters
    him out or deletes his Sock Puppet posts. He has been publicly reprimanded by authors of
    software for hosting anti spyware applications/utilities on his web site without
    authorization from them and has be caught lying about their authorization. He is abusive
    and irreputable and he can't be trusted.

    Do not download any software from http://www.pcbutts1.com Any software suggested should
    *only* be obtained from the vendor/author's web site or their selected download service.

    The Troll did mention Ewido. Here this the /*ONLY*/ place to download it where you can
    guarantee it to be intact, not corrupted and not modified.

    http://download.ewido.net/ewido-setup.exe
     
    David H. Lipman, Oct 2, 2005
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  5. PattiChati

    id Guest

    David don't start with me again. if you want to disrupt this group like you
    have done all the rest of them then keep it up. Everybody knows you don't
    like me and I don't like you but I never attacked you like you have done to
    me, like you are doing now. That makes you the troll. I will defend myself.
    There is nothing wrong with my site, my licenses are under my name not
    pcbutts1. You will never see them so stop asking. My site is license and
    always has been, that is why they have not made me stop. Get over your
    obsession with me. You need help. Leave me alone.
     
    id, Oct 2, 2005
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  6. "You have the permission to publish the following statement in any newsgroup or
    forum:"

    "The domain holder of http://www.pcbutts1.com is not a legal
    (re-)distributor of the anti-spyware software Spybot - Search & Destroy
    and he/she has no right to offer downloads of that software from
    his/her website.
    Safer Networking Ltd. explicitly dissociates from that person, his/her
    comments and language, his/her website and his/her offers for
    downloading its program from his/her site.

    The original Spybot - Search & Destroy shall be downloaded from
    http://www.safer-networking.org or from one of our official partners'
    websites only.

    Safer Networking Ltd."


    "Hello everyone,

    My name is Cedrick Collomb I am the author of Unlocker, do not hesitate to
    contact me at ccollomb DeleteThis @yahoo.com if you have any question.

    My official webpage is http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/

    And for obvious security reasons I recommend you to download my software
    from my webpage only or from official listed websites listed at the bottom
    of the page.

    PCButts1: You sent me emails asking for the permission to use unlocker on
    your website, and in your emails you said that your website was to help
    users dealing with spyware and computer problems. I can not find such a page
    on your website, moreover you directly link my software on your server
    whereas you should have directly linked my software on my webpage with
    http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/unlocker1.7.1.exe for example.

    I have not given you any explicit authorisation, in my answer to you I have
    told you that I would prefer you to link on my webpage, but since I am not
    naive and could not enforce it, I tolerated it on your website given that
    your intents and the description you gave me were accurate. Obviously they
    were not.

    Thus I do not allow you anymore to distribute any version of my software
    Unlocker on your website.

    Thank you for your understanding.

    Cedrick Collomb "


    "Hello,

    Yes I made this post on the newsgroup to ask PCBUTTS1
    to stop to release my software after a Microsoft
    newsgroup official brought my attention on PCBUTTS1
    behaviour.

    It is not a forgery, that is why I included my email
    in the message.

    I have no time to complain and follow that. That is
    why I tolerated that he used unlocker if he respected
    his previous description of his website. However is
    description was deceiptive.

    He knows this is not a forgery since he did not send
    me an email to be sure. He knows he made something
    wrong and is denying it.

    Hope this helps,

    Cedrick Collomb"

    http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/#faq

    "- Is this website "http://www.pcbutts1.com/" authorised to distribute Unlocker? No it is
    not."
     
    David H. Lipman, Oct 2, 2005
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  7. PattiChati

    Sir_George Guest

    <snipped>

    As an independent observer of the posts from both you and David, there is an
    issue that makes David appear more reputable then you; David always posts
    with the same user ID and never tries to disguise his identity. You on the
    other hand have changed your identity (user ID) Generally, when people are
    honest and truthful and have meaningful information they want to exchange
    with others they don't try to disguise themselves by changing their idenity,
    while those less honest or deceitful individuals perfer to remain annonumous
    or, at least, not easily identifiable.

    It may enhance your credibility to use one ID and stick with it so that
    those who frequent the newsgroups will know who you are and what you have
    been posting. Then those who frequent the newsgroups can decide, based on
    the information posted by you and Daivd, if David is truly on some personal
    vendeta against you. So far, from what I have seen, that does not appear to
    be the case.
     
    Sir_George, Oct 2, 2005
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  8. PattiChati

    id Guest

    Did you notice Cedrick said "Anymore" meaning I had permission before you
    and Leythos and ignorant MVP's Not Official MS employee's who misrepresented
    themselves sent numerous emails email to him full of lies. MS does not care
    what I or anybody does that does not effect them. Those MVP's lied I seen
    the emails. The problem is solved between me and Cedrick. I had to
    straighten out the mess and lies you told him and I still have a link to his
    software on my sites. The Spybot - Search & Destroy email you received was
    from some lame employee who does not know who pcbutts1 is or their own
    policy. It was never a problem. What you fail or refuse to understand is
    that anyone and anybody can distribute spybot and mirror it. Had you not
    been so obsessed with me and trying for months to close me down by sending
    fake, false and misleading emails to my ISP, hosting company, vendors, and
    DSV who has nothing what so ever to do with this, you would have read
    Spybots own licensing agreement from Patrick himself
    http://www.safer-networking.org/en/license/index.html " If you want to
    mirror Spybot-S&D, feel free to do so as long as you don't modify the
    original archive. If you want to be kept up to date about major updates, you
    can subscribe to the mailing list. Official mirrors need to fulfill the
    Mirror Policy. http://www.safer-networking.org/en/mirrorpolicy/index.html
    Now if you and leythos have not lied to them that employee who sent you that
    email would have known their own policy but you have poisoned his mind like
    you are trying to do the people of this newsgroup. Get help and leave me
    alone.
     
    id, Oct 2, 2005
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  9. PattiChati

    id Guest

    I have used the same ID for over 6 years now. I change it frequently now
    only for the MS newsgroups because David, leythos and some rogue mvp's don't
    like me and now some of my posts gets filtered. If you have the time read
    all of my posts and you will see who started this mess. It was not me.
    http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-30,GGLG:en&q=pcbutts1
    and then these with the name forging troll filtered out.
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3A2005-30%2CGGLG%3Aen&q=pcbutts1+hijackthis
    and
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLG%2CGGLG%3A2005-30%2CGGLG%3Aen&q=pcbutts1+spyware
     
    id, Oct 2, 2005
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  10. From: "id" <>

    < snip >

    "The problem is solved between me and Cedrick. I had to straighten out the mess and lies you
    told him and I still have a link to his software on my sites. "

    < snip >

    http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/#faq

    "- Is this website "http://www.pcbutts1.com/" authorised to distribute Unlocker? No it is
    not."

    "My name is Cedrick Collomb I am the author of Unlocker, do not hesitate to
    contact me at ccollomb DeleteThis @yahoo.com if you have any question."



    As for -- "The Spybot - Search & Destroy email you received was from some lame employee who
    does not know who pcbutts1 is or their own policy."

    Team Spybot - legal issues; legal <at> spybot.info
    http://www.safer-networking.org

    The email addresses are there, obfuscated, but real. Anyone can third-party verify what I
    have posted if they don't believe what I quoted. I have more but I have no permission to
    post it publicly. It all points to being that you are deceptive (as the post I am replying
    to) and just a /*liar*/.
     
    David H. Lipman, Oct 2, 2005
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  11. PattiChati

    id Guest

    That's why I will not post my real license and web pages because you can't
    handle the truth.
     
    id, Oct 2, 2005
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  12. PattiChati

    Fitz Guest

    David will never see your "licenses" because you don't have them. You're
    not listed as a mirror site on ANY of the developer's websites of the
    programs you leech and you're specifically disavowed by several of those
    developers.

    True or false?

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    NEVER download files from anywhere unless it is from the website of the
    developer, manufacturer or some entity that you trust. They ALWAYS have the
    most up to date files that haven't been tampered with by some third party
    who is "hosting" (read Leeching) those files without permission.
    ***
     
    Fitz, Oct 2, 2005
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  13. PattiChati

    id Guest

    Ok everyone this group is trashed now. David started it with his off topic
    post to Patti. Now he has called Fitz and next Leythos will be here. Soon
    "Whats in a name" will reply. Now who's the trolls here? This group is now
    toast thanks to David.
     
    id, Oct 2, 2005
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  14. PattiChati

    Sir_George Guest

    <snipped>

    The links you provided above actually serve to reinforce David's post
    regarding you and your actions. You provide answers with links to your site
    to download utility programs which are available at more trusted and well
    known sites. It actually apears that you are merely trying to generate
    "hits" on your site.

    Additionally, your posts have an ad in the sig line to purchase products
    from you. It appears your replies are more a site generation tool and a
    sales ploy than an effort to help.

    Personally, I find you to be lacking in the ethics department and feel that
    David is quite accurate with his statements towards you and your practices.
     
    Sir_George, Oct 2, 2005
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  15. PattiChati

    Sir_George Guest

    The best virus program...that's pretty hard to say and open to debate :)
    Last time I looked, Norton was still trying to make a decent AV program.

    However, if you would like to replace Norton AV with a better AV program,
    try Nod32 or KAV.
     
    Sir_George, Oct 2, 2005
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  16. PattiChati

    Ian Kenefick Guest

    This group is great. People like you ruin it. And you must ask
    yourself while you are killfile's most popular?
     
    Ian Kenefick, Oct 2, 2005
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  17. PattiChati

    id Guest

    My sig line is no different then anyone else's including your highly
    respected David Lipman. You analogy is flawed. Besides they already
    complained to my ISP about it. It is not spam. As far as my links go I have
    permission to use them and I do it for free not for hit counts FREE you have
    to remember that. I don't get paid for it. If you would have read more you
    would have read where I explained why my links are direct links not links to
    a web page. If I am so wrong about Dave then why would he post a total off
    topic reply to someone who asked a question in another group telling them
    that I am a troll. The guy is sick he is obsessed with me almost to the
    point of stalking. He also was told by other to stop replying to me but he
    can't because he is obsessed with me. He has hounded me for so long I had to
    put up this page to try and get him to stop http://tinyurl.com/a42l9 those
    are real pictures of him that was sent to me by someone who knows him but is
    no longer associated with him. He does not deny it. The guy is sick.
     
    id, Oct 2, 2005
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  18. PattiChati

    id Guest

    Wrong it's people like David. If he would stop stalking me and spreading
    lies this group will stay as it is. All the answers I give out has always
    been 100% correct and accurate when it comes to viruses and spyware. David
    cannot dispute it, although he has tried, so what he does is attack the way
    I give it out. He does not care about the persons issues anymore.
     
    id, Oct 2, 2005
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  19. PattiChati

    Fitz Guest

    It would appear that you're the sick one. By the way, your "My sig line is
    no different then anyone else's" IS MUCH different than mine.

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    NEVER download files from anywhere unless it is from the website of the
    developer, manufacturer or some entity that you trust. They ALWAYS have the
    most up to date files that haven't been tampered with by some third party
    who is "hosting" (read Leeching) those files without permission.
    ***
     
    Fitz, Oct 2, 2005
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  20. PattiChati

    Fitz Guest

    You give BAD advice when you advise people to download files from a website
    other than the developer's site or an authorized mirror. That is VERY BAD
    advice in anyone's book and you should know better. You are dishonest when
    you say you have permission to host files when the developer says (on the
    official website) that you do not. So these people should trust your
    advice? Me thinks not.

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    ***
    NEVER download files from anywhere unless it is from the website of the
    developer, manufacturer or some entity that you trust. They ALWAYS have the
    most up to date files that haven't been tampered with by some third party
    who is "hosting" (read Leeching) those files without permission.
    ***
     
    Fitz, Oct 2, 2005
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