Antivirus software is the new protection racket

Discussion in 'Virus Information' started by NEWS, May 8, 2005.

  1. NEWS

    NEWS Guest

    As you have all seen by these posts it is not foolproof either.

    There are ways of running computers with no fear of infection.

    You can even make your own virus run it and test it without ruining your
    computer.

    If you want to know more reply to this post asking for more info.

    Do you all think people who write these viruses reinstall windows every day
    ?

    If you go to a hotel or an internet cafe and run a virus do you think they
    have to mess about fixing their systems constantly?

    There are other ways.

    My internet pc config
    DELL GX1
    windows 2000
    p2 350
    256 mb memory
    2 x 20gb hard drives
    No antivirus software
    No spyware
    No problems
    Been up and running on the same setup for 2 years and never had a problem.
    Still runs as fast as when I installed win 2000

    Runs faster than my P4 3000 WITH NORTON AND XP.

    Steve
     
    NEWS, May 8, 2005
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    Kerry Brown Guest

    LOL then why don't you change your P4 over to this method? Not very
    consistent with your message. The only way I know of doing this is using a
    kiosk type system that erases everything and restores to a default setup on
    reboot. Not very useful for the average user. How much will your advice cost
    me?

    Kerry
     
    Kerry Brown, May 8, 2005
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  3. Good for you.. now take your advert someplace else where advertising is
    allowed..

    One of my computers has roughly the same spec as your 'magic' machine.. it
    has worked perfectly for over two years, all with NO help from you or your
    mystery method that you do not choose to freely distribute..
     
    Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\), May 8, 2005
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  4. NEWS

    NEWS Guest

    My advice costs nothing even tec support is possible for instalation again
    no cost.
    If you are in the trade and are likely to buy more I may even send you a
    free sample.

    The product I use/sell is £10 ish less to resellers NO UPDATE COSTS AS NONE
    ARE REQUIRED

    For this you get hardware, software and support.

    My free advice is simple try one.

    Reason for P4 AND P2 SETUP I sell this item to the computer trade
    worldwide.

    My job partly is to demonstrate the product.

    Demo unit has been in use for 2 years
    P4 unit is my newest comparasion model hope this helps.
    You can also buy from www.selu.co.uk

    I save files to a pen drive even viruses in my case as I run them to prove
    the point (Offline so as not to cause problems to other internet users).
    Virus are programs they cannot run unless you or a script tells them too.


    Steve
     
    NEWS, May 8, 2005
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  5. NEWS

    NEWS Guest

    Who freely distributes flawless antivirus software if its you send me some.
    What else do you give away other than your useless opinions.
     
    NEWS, May 8, 2005
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    kurt wismer Guest

    snake-oil... there is no panacea, no perfect protection...
    do you really think that's the only way to deal with a virus infection?
    no, they probably have drive images that they can simply restore from...
     
    kurt wismer, May 8, 2005
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    Buffalo Guest

    Well, if your P2-350 runs faster than your P4-3000, then if you apply your
    'secrets' to your P4, it should just about be the fastest PC in the whole,wide
    world. :)
     
    Buffalo, May 8, 2005
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  8. Troll.

    | Who freely distributes flawless antivirus software if its you send me
    some.
    | What else do you give away other than your useless opinions.
    |
    |
    | | > Good for you.. now take your advert someplace else where advertising is
    | > allowed..
    | >
    | > One of my computers has roughly the same spec as your 'magic' machine..
    it
    | > has worked perfectly for over two years, all with NO help from you or
    your
    | > mystery method that you do not choose to freely distribute..
    | >
    | > --
    | > Mike Hall
    | > MVP - Windows Shell/User
    | > http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
    | >
    | >
    | >
    | >
    | >
    | > | >> As you have all seen by these posts it is not foolproof either.
    | >>
    | >> There are ways of running computers with no fear of infection.
    | >>
    | >> You can even make your own virus run it and test it without ruining
    your
    | >> computer.
    | >>
    | >> If you want to know more reply to this post asking for more info.
    | >>
    | >> Do you all think people who write these viruses reinstall windows every
    | >> day ?
    | >>
    | >> If you go to a hotel or an internet cafe and run a virus do you think
    | >> they have to mess about fixing their systems constantly?
    | >>
    | >> There are other ways.
    | >>
    | >> My internet pc config
    | >> DELL GX1
    | >> windows 2000
    | >> p2 350
    | >> 256 mb memory
    | >> 2 x 20gb hard drives
    | >> No antivirus software
    | >> No spyware
    | >> No problems
    | >> Been up and running on the same setup for 2 years and never had a
    | >> problem.
    | >> Still runs as fast as when I installed win 2000
    | >>
    | >> Runs faster than my P4 3000 WITH NORTON AND XP.
    | >>
    | >> Steve
    | >>
    | >>
    | >>
    | >>
    | >>
    | >
    | >
    |
    |
     
    Tom Pepper Willett, May 8, 2005
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    nos1eep Guest

    Installing Norton is one way to make a P4 run like a P2.
     
    nos1eep, May 8, 2005
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    NoNoBadDog! Guest

    Ahhh...the smell of SPAM in the morning!

    Another scumbag selling an add-in mirror card that doe not offer you any
    protection. This idiot thinks it is okay to let your computer get infected
    while online, because (in theory) the computer will be wiped and them booted
    from a clean image on the card. What the SPAMMER does not tell you is that
    while you are using your infected computer (and it will be infected if you
    boot with no antivirus as this idiot suggests), your computer will be
    infecting everyone in your address book, and will also find other
    unprotected computers to infect. Your computer becomes a vector. Not to
    mention the other nasties that can turn your computer into a zombie or
    spambot.

    I just want everyone to know that what this idiot is selling is not worth
    anything at all. Not even the paltry amount he claims to sell it for.

    Do not pay any attention to this scumbag. The device he sells is worthless.
    It does not protect your computer against viruses, malware, adware etc.

    Bobby
     
    NoNoBadDog!, May 8, 2005
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    Guest Guest

    There's the tip off: selu.co.uk. This spammer is selling the PC Reset
    Card. Yet he wants to hide what this fantastic magical product is that
    he sells. Snake oil salesman never tell you what is in the bottle.

    Yeah, perhaps a usable product if you want back exactly what you had
    before - which means you also lose your documents and configuration
    settings for your programs (if you forget to wipe the change-log on
    bootup using the non-default and hidden menu).

    This is the same BlueYonder spammer that posted in alt.comp.anti-virus
    (or
    http://tinyurl.com/csogw for the Google Groups copy) and several other
    groups, and multiposts to disguise his multiple postings and disconnect
    any replies that would be available with cross-posting. Rather than use
    the AV racket, you get to use *his* hardware racket.

    NOTE: Since I am using Microsoft's NNTP server to reply, the
    non-Microsoft groups will not be included in my reply. The original
    Newgroups header had "alt.comp.anti-virus, alt.comp.os.windows-xp,
    alt.comp.virus, microsoft.public.security.virus,
    microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware". Yep, the spammer is shotgunning
    all over the place.

    Spam abuse has been reported.
     
    Guest, May 8, 2005
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    NoNoBadDog! Guest

    Correction;

    Installing Norton will not slow down a properly configured maintained
    computer.

    ( I have a network of over 200 computers of various makes, models and
    vintage. Norton is on all of them. None of them are slowed down by
    Norton...but then again I know how to maintain a healthy system).

    Bobby


    Bobby
     
    NoNoBadDog!, May 8, 2005
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  13. My 'useless' opinions help people here for free.. I have no product that I
    am trying to peddle.. unlike you, of course.. you are a cheap troll of the
    worst kind.. you talk like stuff is for free, and then you spring the
    charge.. and you have to do it privately.. lol.. do you add anybody who
    replies to a mailing list that they can't opt out of because the mail box is
    always left full to capacity, and the 'get out' mail is bounced back?..

    You will get no respect from me, not that you care, eh.. you will lose
    respect from many more too, but shysters like you work on the principle that
    if you can catch 'three in every hundred', then that is a good day's
    hunting.. you don't care what impact you have other than on a person's
    wallet..

    Like I said, take it someplace else.. improve you marketing skills and do a
    proper job with your product..

    --
    Mike Hall
    MVP - Windows Shell/User
    http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
     
    Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\), May 8, 2005
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    Guest Guest


    Yep, for sure NEWS is a spammer. Nowhere in Mike's reply did he say he
    was using "flawless antivirus software". But NEWS wants to divert from
    his statements and cloud the issue with deliberately inaccurate
    quotation.

    Ledsystems probably would like this spammer to go away as all it effects
    is a negative publicity campaign against them.
     
    Guest, May 8, 2005
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    Phil Weldon Guest

    What about negative publicity from the 'snake oil' product?

    Phil Weldon
     
    Phil Weldon, May 8, 2005
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    Fitz Guest

    Amen!


     
    Fitz, May 8, 2005
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    idbeholda Guest

    What's disturbing, is that there are people who don't
    under-fucking-stand that. As long as you make sure your system is
    clean on a regular basis, and properly maintain it, you can run just
    about anything.
     
    idbeholda, May 8, 2005
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    TJ Guest

    wrote:

    What's even more disturbing, are people who post to Usenet thru the Google
    Interface which updates what? Once or twice a day? Oh, and those that
    think Norton *.* is anything more than what it's become.

    Norton was a fine utility, once-upon-a-time. These days (IMO) it's
    "devolved" into just another in a long line of poorly written, invasive,
    bloatware that's nearly impossible to completely rid onself of if you decide
    you don't care for it.

    Kinda like AOL. (Except for the fact that AOL was *NEVER* a fine utility.)
     
    TJ, May 8, 2005
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    idbeholda Guest

    That's why I recommend using F-Prot. That... and I'm finding more and
    more that Avast is un-fucking-godly.
     
    idbeholda, May 8, 2005
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    TJ Guest

    Avast! is not only free, it's non-invasive, and easy to get rid of if you
    don't like it. (Try doing THAT, with anything Norton.) Also? I find
    Avast updates regularly and is just as effective as anything Symantec has
    released in the past five years.

    YMMV of course.
     
    TJ, May 8, 2005
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