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Peter Lauren
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      04-10-2011, 03:37 AM
On Oct 3, 4:10 pm, G. Morgan <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Peter Lauren wrote:
>
> >I can successfully ping both ways between the Windows 7 PC and XP PC.
> >So I fire up FireFox (FF) on the XP PC and type the following in the
> >FF URL box.
> >[Win7PCIPAddress]/SharedDirectoryOnWin7PC/FileName.hmtl
> >The following ensues on the FF browser.
> >Looking up searchconduit.com
> >Looking up isearch.avg.com
> >Firefox can't find the server isearch.avg.com

>
> >The same happens when I replace the Windows 7 PC IP address with the
> >Windows 7 PC name.

>
> What protocol?http://[Win7PCIPAddress]/SharedDirec.../FileName.hmtl
>
> won't work
>
> Use:
>
> file:///[Win7PCIPAddress]/SharedDirectoryOnWin7PC/FileName.hmtl


Thank you for your reply. I have found that I can do what I want to
do but only if I share the folder on the Windows 7 PC with Everyone.
I have set up a network but can only see the network on my XP PC.
That is on my XP PC I can see bothe the XP PC and the Windows 7 PC.
However, on the Windows 7 PC I can only see the Windows 7 PC. I have
successfully set up a workgroup on the Windows 7 PC. It has the same
name as the network I see on the XP PC but I could not find the
equivalent of the Network Connection wizard on the Windows 7 PC. So I
have not managed to set up a network, on the Windows 7 PC that include
the XP PC. Or at least I may have a network but it can only be seen
(and seen perfectly) from the XP PC.

Any assistance with having the network visible on the Windows 7 PC
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Peter.
 
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      04-10-2011, 08:28 AM
On 03/10/2011 18:11, Peter Lauren wrote:
> On Oct 3, 9:57 am, Desk Rabbit<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> On 03/10/2011 13:09, Peter Lauren wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> I have two PCs connected to each other through a Wireless-N Gigabit
>>> Router (model number WRT310N). One PC is running Windws XP while the
>>> other is running Windows 7. At this point I do not have, or want,
>>> Internet connectivity. I would, however, like to call web pages on the
>>> Windows 7 PC from the Windows XP PC. The Windows 7 PC has php files
>>> that run C++ files to analyze files supplied by the Windows XP PC and
>>> I would like to send the results of the analysis back to the XP PC.

>>
>>> The reason for this is that I am setting up a home based web site that
>>> allows users to run programs on my Windows 7 PC but I want to keep
>>> hackers from accessing files on my Windows 7 PC. So the XP will be
>>> connected directly to the Internet and the Windows 7 PC will only be
>>> connected to the XP PC.

>>
>>> I can successfully ping both ways between the Windows 7 PC and XP PC.
>>> So I fire up FireFox (FF) on the XP PC and type the following in the
>>> FF URL box.
>>> [Win7PCIPAddress]/SharedDirectoryOnWin7PC/FileName.hmtl
>>> The following ensues on the FF browser.
>>> Looking up searchconduit.com
>>> Looking up isearch.avg.com
>>> Firefox can't find the server isearch.avg.com

>>
>>> The same happens when I replace the Windows 7 PC IP address with the
>>> Windows 7 PC name.

>>
>>> I tried to set up a network between the two PCs with the MS network
>>> wizard on the XP box. It made a setup disk with a single file on it. I
>>> was supposed to run the setup file on the other PCs that are supposed
>>> to be on the network but, whe I did, I got the following message.

>>
>>> Cannot complete the Setwork Setup Wizard,
>>> An error occurred during the configuration of the network on this
>>> computer.
>>> You can configure the network manually.

>>
>>> I didn't find that message helpful apart from telling me that the
>>> setup was unsuccessful.

>>
>>> Any assistance with this problem would be greatly appreciated.
>>> Peter.

>>
>> Your logic is flawed. If you network the two PCs and the web facing one
>> gets compromised then the other PC will be reachable because it is
>> connected via the network.
>>
>> These machines should be in a DMZ and ideally run as VMs.

>
> Are VMs not software? Would they not be easier to hack than hardware?


To properly implement a DMZ you need a hardware firewall. It sounds like
you are using software firewalls on the PCs and if you think a VM is
easier to hack then it sounds like you are well out of your depth
because that's not the reason I suggested using them.

I have many years experience in installing & running web facing servers
for business clients and I've never had a breach. You are on course to
be the next spam source and bot net member.
 
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G. Morgan
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      04-10-2011, 01:28 PM
Peter Lauren wrote:

>Any assistance with having the network visible on the Windows 7 PC
>would be greatly appreciated.


Go here:

Control Panel\Network and Internet\Network and Sharing Center\Advanced
sharing settings

Turn them all on.

Explanation here:
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...dows-7-and-xp/

 
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      04-10-2011, 01:30 PM
G. Morgan wrote:

>Control Panel\Network and Internet\Network and Sharing Center\Advanced
>sharing settings



BTW... It makes things a little easier if the logon creds. are the same
on each machine.
 
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John Holmes
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      04-10-2011, 05:26 PM
Desk Rabbit "contributed" in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:

> On 03/10/2011 17:23, John Holmes wrote:
>> Desk Rabbit "contributed" in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:
>>
>>> On 03/10/2011 13:09, Peter Lauren wrote:
>>>> I have two PCs connected to each other through a Wireless-N Gigabit
>>>> Router (model number WRT310N). One PC is running Windws XP while the
>>>> other is running Windows 7. At this point I do not have, or want,
>>>> Internet connectivity. I would, however, like to call web pages on

the
>>>> Windows 7 PC from the Windows XP PC. The Windows 7 PC has php files
>>>> that run C++ files to analyze files supplied by the Windows XP PC

and
>>>> I would like to send the results of the analysis back to the XP PC.
>>>>
>>>> The reason for this is that I am setting up a home based web site

that
>>>> allows users to run programs on my Windows 7 PC but I want to keep
>>>> hackers from accessing files on my Windows 7 PC. So the XP will be
>>>> connected directly to the Internet and the Windows 7 PC will only be
>>>> connected to the XP PC.
>>>>
>>>> I can successfully ping both ways between the Windows 7 PC and XP

PC.
>>>> So I fire up FireFox (FF) on the XP PC and type the following in the
>>>> FF URL box.
>>>> [Win7PCIPAddress]/SharedDirectoryOnWin7PC/FileName.hmtl
>>>> The following ensues on the FF browser.
>>>> Looking up searchconduit.com
>>>> Looking up isearch.avg.com
>>>> Firefox can't find the server isearch.avg.com
>>>>
>>>> The same happens when I replace the Windows 7 PC IP address with the
>>>> Windows 7 PC name.
>>>>
>>>> I tried to set up a network between the two PCs with the MS network
>>>> wizard on the XP box. It made a setup disk with a single file on it.

I
>>>> was supposed to run the setup file on the other PCs that are

supposed
>>>> to be on the network but, whe I did, I got the following message.
>>>>
>>>> Cannot complete the Setwork Setup Wizard,
>>>> An error occurred during the configuration of the network on this
>>>> computer.
>>>> You can configure the network manually.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't find that message helpful apart from telling me that the
>>>> setup was unsuccessful.
>>>>
>>>> Any assistance with this problem would be greatly appreciated.
>>>> Peter.
>>> Your logic is flawed. If you network the two PCs and the web facing

one
>>> gets compromised then the other PC will be reachable because it is
>>> connected via the network.
>>>
>>> These machines should be in a DMZ and ideally run as VMs.
>>>

>>
>> LOL
>>

> Good helpful feedback that. Can't argue with the cut and thrust and
> technically backed up comments.
>
>
>
> Whoops, sorry! Replied to the wrong post.
>
> I wonder who got the message saying stupid ****?


Nobody, yet. But I thought you were joking: the OP obviously does'nt know
much about networking, how would he know the meaning of a DMZ or a VM?

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      05-10-2011, 08:05 AM
On 04/10/2011 18:26, John Holmes wrote:
> Desk Rabbit "contributed" in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:
>
>> On 03/10/2011 17:23, John Holmes wrote:
>>> Desk Rabbit "contributed" in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:
>>>
>>>> On 03/10/2011 13:09, Peter Lauren wrote:
>>>>> I have two PCs connected to each other through a Wireless-N Gigabit
>>>>> Router (model number WRT310N). One PC is running Windws XP while the
>>>>> other is running Windows 7. At this point I do not have, or want,
>>>>> Internet connectivity. I would, however, like to call web pages on

> the
>>>>> Windows 7 PC from the Windows XP PC. The Windows 7 PC has php files
>>>>> that run C++ files to analyze files supplied by the Windows XP PC

> and
>>>>> I would like to send the results of the analysis back to the XP PC.
>>>>>
>>>>> The reason for this is that I am setting up a home based web site

> that
>>>>> allows users to run programs on my Windows 7 PC but I want to keep
>>>>> hackers from accessing files on my Windows 7 PC. So the XP will be
>>>>> connected directly to the Internet and the Windows 7 PC will only be
>>>>> connected to the XP PC.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can successfully ping both ways between the Windows 7 PC and XP

> PC.
>>>>> So I fire up FireFox (FF) on the XP PC and type the following in the
>>>>> FF URL box.
>>>>> [Win7PCIPAddress]/SharedDirectoryOnWin7PC/FileName.hmtl
>>>>> The following ensues on the FF browser.
>>>>> Looking up searchconduit.com
>>>>> Looking up isearch.avg.com
>>>>> Firefox can't find the server isearch.avg.com
>>>>>
>>>>> The same happens when I replace the Windows 7 PC IP address with the
>>>>> Windows 7 PC name.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried to set up a network between the two PCs with the MS network
>>>>> wizard on the XP box. It made a setup disk with a single file on it.

> I
>>>>> was supposed to run the setup file on the other PCs that are

> supposed
>>>>> to be on the network but, whe I did, I got the following message.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cannot complete the Setwork Setup Wizard,
>>>>> An error occurred during the configuration of the network on this
>>>>> computer.
>>>>> You can configure the network manually.
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't find that message helpful apart from telling me that the
>>>>> setup was unsuccessful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any assistance with this problem would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>> Peter.
>>>> Your logic is flawed. If you network the two PCs and the web facing

> one
>>>> gets compromised then the other PC will be reachable because it is
>>>> connected via the network.
>>>>
>>>> These machines should be in a DMZ and ideally run as VMs.
>>>>
>>>
>>> LOL
>>>

>> Good helpful feedback that. Can't argue with the cut and thrust and
>> technically backed up comments.
>>
>>
>>
>> Whoops, sorry! Replied to the wrong post.
>>
>> I wonder who got the message saying stupid ****?

>
> Nobody, yet. But I thought you were joking: the OP obviously does'nt know
> much about networking, how would he know the meaning of a DMZ or a VM?
>


Indeed. It was meant to prove my point that he doesn't understand what
he is doing and the implications of getting it wrong.
 
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Peter Lauren
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      05-10-2011, 05:47 PM
On Oct 4, 4:28 am, Desk Rabbit <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
> To properly implement a DMZ you need a hardware firewall. It sounds like
> you are using software firewalls on the PCs and if you think a VM is
> easier to hack then it sounds like you are well out of your depth
> because that's not the reason I suggested using them.
>
> I have many years experience in installing & running web facing servers
> for business clients and I've never had a breach. You are on course to
> be the next spam source and bot net member.


Thank you for your reply. The PCs are connected through a Linksys
router. with an SPI firewall. The available Internet filters are
- Filter anonymous Internet requests
- Filter multicast
- Filter Internet NA redirection
- Filter Indet (Port 113)

It can also block the following applications: NDS, ping, gttp, https,
ftp, pop, imap, nntp, telnet, shmp, tftp and IKE

I have started reading up on virtual machines and will try to get back
about that tomorrow.

Thanks,
Peter


 
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Peter Lauren
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      05-10-2011, 05:57 PM
On Oct 4, 9:28 am, G. Morgan <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> Peter Lauren wrote:
> >Any assistance with having the network visible on the Windows 7 PC
> >would be greatly appreciated.

>
> Go here:
>
> Control Panel\Network and Internet\Network and Sharing Center\Advanced
> sharing settings
>
> Turn them all on.
>
> Explanation here:http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...d-printers-bet...


Thanks. I had been trying to work through that link before. I make
sure that both machines have the same workgroup. I also have the
right advanced sharing settings. But I can't go into Network in
Windows 7. The Windows Explorer window on has > Computer > but not >
Network >

Thanks,
Peter.
 
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Peter Lauren
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      05-10-2011, 06:10 PM
On Oct 5, 4:05 am, Desk Rabbit <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
> On 04/10/2011 18:26, John Holmes wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Desk Rabbit "contributed" in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:

>
> >> On 03/10/2011 17:23, John Holmes wrote:
> >>> Desk Rabbit "contributed" in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:

>
> >>>> On 03/10/2011 13:09, Peter Lauren wrote:
> >>>>> I have two PCs connected to each other through a Wireless-N Gigabit
> >>>>> Router (model number WRT310N). One PC is running Windws XP while the
> >>>>> other is running Windows 7. At this point I do not have, or want,
> >>>>> Internet connectivity. I would, however, like to call web pages on

> > the
> >>>>> Windows 7 PC from the Windows XP PC. The Windows 7 PC has php files
> >>>>> that run C++ files to analyze files supplied by the Windows XP PC

> > and
> >>>>> I would like to send the results of the analysis back to the XP PC.

>
> >>>>> The reason for this is that I am setting up a home based web site

> > that
> >>>>> allows users to run programs on my Windows 7 PC but I want to keep
> >>>>> hackers from accessing files on my Windows 7 PC. So the XP will be
> >>>>> connected directly to the Internet and the Windows 7 PC will only be
> >>>>> connected to the XP PC.

>
> >>>>> I can successfully ping both ways between the Windows 7 PC and XP

> > PC.
> >>>>> So I fire up FireFox (FF) on the XP PC and type the following in the
> >>>>> FF URL box.
> >>>>> [Win7PCIPAddress]/SharedDirectoryOnWin7PC/FileName.hmtl
> >>>>> The following ensues on the FF browser.
> >>>>> Looking up searchconduit.com
> >>>>> Looking up isearch.avg.com
> >>>>> Firefox can't find the server isearch.avg.com

>
> >>>>> The same happens when I replace the Windows 7 PC IP address with the
> >>>>> Windows 7 PC name.

>
> >>>>> I tried to set up a network between the two PCs with the MS network
> >>>>> wizard on the XP box. It made a setup disk with a single file on it..

> > I
> >>>>> was supposed to run the setup file on the other PCs that are

> > supposed
> >>>>> to be on the network but, whe I did, I got the following message.

>
> >>>>> Cannot complete the Setwork Setup Wizard,
> >>>>> An error occurred during the configuration of the network on this
> >>>>> computer.
> >>>>> You can configure the network manually.

>
> >>>>> I didn't find that message helpful apart from telling me that the
> >>>>> setup was unsuccessful.

>
> >>>>> Any assistance with this problem would be greatly appreciated.
> >>>>> Peter.
> >>>> Your logic is flawed. If you network the two PCs and the web facing

> > one
> >>>> gets compromised then the other PC will be reachable because it is
> >>>> connected via the network.

>
> >>>> These machines should be in a DMZ and ideally run as VMs.

>
> >>> LOL

>
> >> Good helpful feedback that. Can't argue with the cut and thrust and
> >> technically backed up comments.

>
> >> Whoops, sorry! Replied to the wrong post.

>
> >> I wonder who got the message saying stupid ****?

>
> > Nobody, yet. But I thought you were joking: the OP obviously does'nt know
> > much about networking, how would he know the meaning of a DMZ or a VM?

>
> Indeed. It was meant to prove my point that he doesn't understand what
> he is doing and the implications of getting it wrong.


I looked at my first message and saw that I neglected to mention that
the XP PC is supposed to be in the DMZ while the Windows 7 PC is
behind a router. I am trying to set up a DMZ with the web layer
connected to the Internet and the application layer accessible only
from the web layer through a type of filter so that it cannot have
direct access from the Internet. I have ZoneAlarm on both PCs and the
two PC are connected through a LinkSys router. I am on a steep
learning curve which is why I'm here.

Thanks,
Peter.
 
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      05-10-2011, 07:08 PM
Peter Lauren wrote:
> On Oct 4, 9:28 am, G. Morgan <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>> Peter Lauren wrote:
>>> Any assistance with having the network visible on the Windows 7 PC
>>> would be greatly appreciated.

>> Go here:
>>
>> Control Panel\Network and Internet\Network and Sharing Center\Advanced
>> sharing settings
>>
>> Turn them all on.
>>
>> Explanation here:http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windo...d-printers-bet...

>
> Thanks. I had been trying to work through that link before. I make
> sure that both machines have the same workgroup. I also have the
> right advanced sharing settings. But I can't go into Network in
> Windows 7. The Windows Explorer window on has > Computer > but not >
> Network >
>
> Thanks,
> Peter.


Just follow the instructions here:
<http://www.petri.co.il/inside-windows-7-network-and-sharing-center.htm>

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