Anti-Spyware Forums


Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes

Is this a harmful site

 
 
Metspitzer
Guest
Posts: n/a

 
      19-03-2012, 05:27 PM
According to my nephew, he was going to install VLC. Instead of going
to videolan.org, he went to the top hit on Google's search. Is
vlc.downloadster.org harmful. He said that he got a toolbar that he
was unable to uninstall.

There seem to be many times when Google returns a site that is not the
original site for software ahead of the home page for the software.
 
Reply With Quote
 
 
 
 
Metspitzer
Guest
Posts: n/a

 
      19-03-2012, 07:14 PM
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:12:24 -0400, "David H. Lipman"
<DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:

>From: "Metspitzer" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>
>> According to my nephew, he was going to install VLC. Instead of going
>> to videolan.org, he went to the top hit on Google's search. Is
>> vlc.downloadster.org harmful. He said that he got a toolbar that he
>> was unable to uninstall.
>>
>> There seem to be many times when Google returns a site that is not the
>> original site for software ahead of the home page for the software.

>
>vlc.downloadster.org doesn't resolve.
>
>There are many sites that repacjage VLC player with malware. That is why
>you always go to the real source. In this case...
>http://www.videolan.org/


Would you try to just Google search for VLC and try the number 1 site?
If the number 1 site is harmful, wouldn't that put some blame on
Google?

I have no clue what site my nephew was actually on, but just from me
searching, the top hit does have a valid link.

Google shows the site as vlc.downloadster.org
 
Reply With Quote
 
 
 
 
Dustin
Guest
Posts: n/a

 
      19-03-2012, 10:43 PM
Metspitzer <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in
news:(E-Mail Removed):

> On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 14:12:24 -0400, "David H. Lipman"
> <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:
>
>>From: "Metspitzer" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>>
>>> According to my nephew, he was going to install VLC. Instead of
>>> going to videolan.org, he went to the top hit on Google's search.
>>> Is vlc.downloadster.org harmful. He said that he got a toolbar
>>> that he was unable to uninstall.
>>>
>>> There seem to be many times when Google returns a site that is not
>>> the original site for software ahead of the home page for the
>>> software.

>>
>>vlc.downloadster.org doesn't resolve.
>>
>>There are many sites that repacjage VLC player with malware. That is
>>why you always go to the real source. In this case...
>>http://www.videolan.org/

>
> Would you try to just Google search for VLC and try the number 1
> site? If the number 1 site is harmful, wouldn't that put some blame
> on Google?


No. It's not googles fault if I can't read what I'm fixing to click on.

> I have no clue what site my nephew was actually on, but just from me
> searching, the top hit does have a valid link.
>
> Google shows the site as vlc.downloadster.org


Which is not the homepage of vlc. Hence, download it from the homepage
instead.




--
Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too
many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by,
and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught. - J.C. Watts
 
Reply With Quote
 
David W. Hodgins
Guest
Posts: n/a

 
      20-03-2012, 12:11 AM
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:27:56 -0400, Metspitzer <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> According to my nephew, he was going to install VLC. Instead of going
> to videolan.org, he went to the top hit on Google's search. Is
> vlc.downloadster.org harmful. He said that he got a toolbar that he
> was unable to uninstall.


The site is actually http://downloadster.org/vlc.php

According to virustotal, nod32 calls it Win32/DownloadAdmin.A.Gen
while sophos calls it Download Admin.

None of the others are detecting it.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

--
Change nomail.afraid.org to ody.ca to reply by email.
(nomail.afraid.org has been set up specifically for
use in usenet. Feel free to use it yourself.)
 
Reply With Quote
 
Metspitzer
Guest
Posts: n/a

 
      20-03-2012, 12:41 AM
On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 20:11:18 -0400, "David W. Hodgins"
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:27:56 -0400, Metspitzer <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> According to my nephew, he was going to install VLC. Instead of going
>> to videolan.org, he went to the top hit on Google's search. Is
>> vlc.downloadster.org harmful. He said that he got a toolbar that he
>> was unable to uninstall.

>
>The site is actually http://downloadster.org/vlc.php
>
>According to virustotal, nod32 calls it Win32/DownloadAdmin.A.Gen
>while sophos calls it Download Admin.
>
>None of the others are detecting it.
>

Thanks

That kind of makes virustotal a little unreliable, huh? Or do they
not consider tool bars harmful?
 
Reply With Quote
 
Metspitzer
Guest
Posts: n/a

 
      21-03-2012, 02:11 AM
On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 02:00:11 -0000, "Ant" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>"David W. Hodgins" wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:27:56 -0400, Metspitzer wrote:
>>> According to my nephew, he was going to install VLC. Instead of going
>>> to videolan.org, he went to the top hit on Google's search. Is
>>> vlc.downloadster.org harmful. He said that he got a toolbar that he
>>> was unable to uninstall.

>
>It might be adware but probably not a trojan.
>
>> The site is actually http://downloadster.org/vlc.php
>>
>> According to virustotal, nod32 calls it Win32/DownloadAdmin.A.Gen
>> while sophos calls it Download Admin.

>
>"Downloadster.org distributes Open source software via a download
> manager install system. This software may be available free elsewhere.
> Additional software may be offered in opt-in ads, Learn More".
>
>And when we "Learn More":
>
>"DownloadAdmin manages the entire installation process of your
> software from start to finish. This page was created to let you know
> what information we collect, why we collect it and how we use it to
> improve your experience".
>
>Yeah, right.
>
>"We're able to offer free software because we are advertiser supported.
> When you install software, it gives our advertisers a chance to speak
> to you .... You have the option to decline all advertisements and
> still install and use the software for free".
>
>So the installation of the toolbar should have obvious unless they're
>telling porkies.
>
>There was another thread here recently about crapware bundled with
>otherwise good and free software.
>

Even if the toolbar has one of those "uncheck here not to be infected
box," there should be a way to uninstall it. According to my nephew,
there was no option to uninstall it.

IMO any software that does not include a way to uninstall itself
should have it's programmer hunted down and shot or, at least, pistol
whipped.

 
Reply With Quote
 
ASCII
Guest
Posts: n/a

 
      21-03-2012, 07:20 AM
Metspitzer wrote:
>
>Even if the toolbar has one of those "uncheck here not to be infected
>box," there should be a way to uninstall it. According to my nephew,
>there was no option to uninstall it.


I remember HJT having a way to get rid of 'toolbars' BHOs and others.
 
Reply With Quote
 
FromTheRafters
Guest
Posts: n/a

 
      21-03-2012, 08:02 PM
Metspitzer wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012 02:00:11 -0000, "Ant"<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> "David W. Hodgins" wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 13:27:56 -0400, Metspitzer wrote:
>>>> According to my nephew, he was going to install VLC. Instead of going
>>>> to videolan.org, he went to the top hit on Google's search. Is
>>>> vlc.downloadster.org harmful. He said that he got a toolbar that he
>>>> was unable to uninstall.

>>
>> It might be adware but probably not a trojan.
>>
>>> The site is actually http://downloadster.org/vlc.php
>>>
>>> According to virustotal, nod32 calls it Win32/DownloadAdmin.A.Gen
>>> while sophos calls it Download Admin.

>>
>> "Downloadster.org distributes Open source software via a download
>> manager install system. This software may be available free elsewhere.
>> Additional software may be offered in opt-in ads, Learn More".
>>
>> And when we "Learn More":
>>
>> "DownloadAdmin manages the entire installation process of your
>> software from start to finish. This page was created to let you know
>> what information we collect, why we collect it and how we use it to
>> improve your experience".
>>
>> Yeah, right.
>>
>> "We're able to offer free software because we are advertiser supported.
>> When you install software, it gives our advertisers a chance to speak
>> to you .... You have the option to decline all advertisements and
>> still install and use the software for free".
>>
>> So the installation of the toolbar should have obvious unless they're
>> telling porkies.
>>
>> There was another thread here recently about crapware bundled with
>> otherwise good and free software.
>>

> Even if the toolbar has one of those "uncheck here not to be infected
> box," there should be a way to uninstall it. According to my nephew,
> there was no option to uninstall it.
>
> IMO any software that does not include a way to uninstall itself
> should have it's programmer hunted down and shot or, at least, pistol
> whipped.
>

Sometimes they're there, but not so obvious. You have some registry keys
that store an "UninstallString" and another that makes that information
appear in the add/remove programs dialog.


 
Reply With Quote
 
G. Morgan
Guest
Posts: n/a

 
      07-06-2012, 02:11 AM
Metspitzer wrote:

>Google shows the site as vlc.downloadster.org


Does not exist:

C:\Users\me>ping vlc.downloadster.org
Ping request could not find host vlc.downloadster.org. Please
check the name and try again.

The #1 hit is meaningless sometimes, you are the one selecting
links that Google was nice enough to index for you. They are not
responsible for anything you click on.
 
Reply With Quote
 
G. Morgan
Guest
Posts: n/a

 
      07-06-2012, 02:14 AM
Metspitzer wrote:

>That kind of makes virustotal a little unreliable, huh? Or do they
>not consider tool bars harmful?


It makes it very reliable, if you can draw your own conclusions
from the results. Again, this site just's tests files from other
vendors... don't shoot the messenger.
 
Reply With Quote
 
 
 
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Is VNC harmful Metspitzer Anti-Virus 5 15-04-2012 01:19 PM
Netstat live may be harmful. Metspitzer Anti-Virus 0 29-03-2012 05:47 PM
I keep getting harmful web site warning from Radio Shack Metspitzer Anti-Virus 1 11-12-2011 03:32 AM
need help badly suspect harmful software Kaja Computer Security 3 30-12-2008 12:16 PM
Logging into a secured site - redirected to unrelated site. =?Utf-8?B?QkRNTU0=?= Computer Security 1 07-07-2006 08:53 PM


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:31 AM.