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georget@hotline.com
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      20-11-2008, 07:51 PM


I tried their trial anti maleware program. The dang thing tagged a
whole bunch of window files as being infected with a trojan. When I
allowed it to "disinfect" the dang files, it screwed up a lot of
Window XP files. When I rebooted I kept getting error messages about
incorrect Window image files. Luckily, I always backup with Acronis
True Image before using new programs. This habit saved my comp from
disaster.

So much for Malwarebytes crap.
 
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      20-11-2008, 08:18 PM

<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message news:(E-Mail Removed)...
>I tried their trial anti maleware program. The dang thing tagged a
> whole bunch of window files as being infected with a trojan. When I
> allowed it to "disinfect" the dang files, it screwed up a lot of
> Window XP files. When I rebooted I kept getting error messages about
> incorrect Window image files. Luckily, I always backup with Acronis
> True Image before using new programs. This habit saved my comp from
> disaster.
>
> So much for Malwarebytes crap.


You may post your issues to the MBAM Forum, if you wish >
http://www.malwarebytes.org/forums/

Silj


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      20-11-2008, 08:51 PM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
(E-Mail Removed) says...
> I tried their trial anti maleware program. The dang thing tagged a
> whole bunch of window files as being infected with a trojan. When I
> allowed it to "disinfect" the dang files, it screwed up a lot of
> Window XP files. When I rebooted I kept getting error messages about
> incorrect Window image files. Luckily, I always backup with Acronis
> True Image before using new programs. This habit saved my comp from
> disaster.
>
> So much for Malwarebytes crap.


Wrong thinking - the MALWARE SCREWED UP YOUR COMPUTER, MBAM just made
you aware of it.

So, now that you've restored the image, what are you going to do to
clean the malware?

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h@h.com
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      20-11-2008, 11:05 PM
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:51:41 -0500, Leythos <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
>(E-Mail Removed) says...
>> I tried their trial anti maleware program. The dang thing tagged a
>> whole bunch of window files as being infected with a trojan. When I
>> allowed it to "disinfect" the dang files, it screwed up a lot of
>> Window XP files. When I rebooted I kept getting error messages about
>> incorrect Window image files. Luckily, I always backup with Acronis
>> True Image before using new programs. This habit saved my comp from
>> disaster.
>>
>> So much for Malwarebytes crap.

>
>Wrong thinking - the MALWARE SCREWED UP YOUR COMPUTER, MBAM just made
>you aware of it.
>
>So, now that you've restored the image, what are you going to do to
>clean the malware?


B.S.!

I had no problems with my machine before installing Malwarebytes. I
merely installed it out of curiosity.

I trust my Sunbelt Firewall and Kaspersky AV to keep me reasonably
safe. I installed Spybot a long time ago for its TeaTimer accessory.
Tea Timer alerts me when anything tries writing to my registry.

In light of no problems, plus my defensive programs, why should I
believe some piece of new junkware that my machine is totally
corrupted by god knows how many trojans?

Another thing that bugged me is that piece of junkware tried telling
me that my Evidence Eliminator and all its plugins were infected.
Nonsense! Everyone hates what EE did in its spamming days, but that
doesn't mean the program is - as malwarebytes puts it, a "rogue."

I've had EE installed since many years ago, almost since its
introduction. It's a great program - despite what malwarebytes says.
You can hate their spamming past, but the program should be judged on
its own merits.

I just want to warn anyone who intends to install such
spyware-junkware to backup their disk beforehand.

I'll now let all the spyware-junkware geniuses take over this thread.
 
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Leythos
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      21-11-2008, 12:03 AM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed) says...
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:51:41 -0500, Leythos <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <(E-Mail Removed)>,
> >(E-Mail Removed) says...
> >> I tried their trial anti maleware program. The dang thing tagged a
> >> whole bunch of window files as being infected with a trojan. When I
> >> allowed it to "disinfect" the dang files, it screwed up a lot of
> >> Window XP files. When I rebooted I kept getting error messages about
> >> incorrect Window image files. Luckily, I always backup with Acronis
> >> True Image before using new programs. This habit saved my comp from
> >> disaster.
> >>
> >> So much for Malwarebytes crap.

> >
> >Wrong thinking - the MALWARE SCREWED UP YOUR COMPUTER, MBAM just made
> >you aware of it.
> >
> >So, now that you've restored the image, what are you going to do to
> >clean the malware?

>
> B.S.!
>
> I had no problems with my machine before installing Malwarebytes. I
> merely installed it out of curiosity.
>


You're seriously mistaken if you think that MBAM actually messed up your
machine. I've run it on close to 200 machines and not had any problems
that could not directly be attributed to the malware corrupting a file.

You've already admitted that it found malware on your machine, so that
means your machine was trashed to start with. I advocate a
wipe/reinstall method of cleaning machines, but I use the various tools
to get them back online long enough to backup files that are then
scanned by other tools - I still wipe the machines.

As for Your entire description and your "assumption", seriously, you're
mistaken if you can't understand how malware can corrupt a system easily
so that when you remove the malware you end up with problems.

What do you suppose happens to file that are part of the OS when they
are replaced with the malware code and not just appended to the code?
What happens with your computer when a critical OS file is deleted
because it's infected? Come on, you've got to understand the basics of
what happens or you're not going to really understand your computer.

So, you said you ran MBAM, it detected malware on your computer, you it
broke things, you said you restored an image and all is happy again....
Sounds like you're still compromised with something you don't see.

You do understand that no single (or even 2 or 3) anti-malware tools
detect everything out there right now, right?

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Buffalo
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      21-11-2008, 01:05 AM


(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
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> I've had EE installed since many years ago, almost since its
> introduction. It's a great program - despite what malwarebytes says.
> You can hate their spamming past, but the program should be judged on
> its own merits.

[snip]

When did you try AntiMalware? What date, aprox.
Like you stated above, about EE "You can hate their spamming past, but the
program should be judged on
> its own merits." perhaps they were false positives.

Why don't you try the latest MBAM and see what it finds? You don't have to
delete anything you find, as you well know.
Post back with the results (the log).
Hell, it won't cost you anything and it could benefit others.
Buffalo



 
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      21-11-2008, 02:51 AM
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:05:15 -0700, "Buffalo" <(E-Mail Removed)>
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>
>
>(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
>[snip]
>


>Why don't you try the latest MBAM and see what it finds? You don't have to
>delete anything you find, as you well know.
>Post back with the results (the log).
>Hell, it won't cost you anything and it could benefit others.
>Buffalo
>

I did download the latest version. When I tried updating, it told me
I had the latest update.

It, and all it's parts, are history since I reloaded a prior image
back onto my C: drive.

As far as I know, my comp is in fine shape. The Sunbelt firewall,
along with Kaspersky and Spybot have not once warned me of a problem.
My comp doesn't act strangely, nor does my firewall let anything out
or in except the programs I'm using. Everything else is blocked. If
there were something, wrong, I'd be experiencing strange happenings. I
ain't. So, I'm not worried about it - no matter what some junkware
proggy says is wrong.

Until my comp starts showing problems, I'll believe it and my own
judgment.
 
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Leythos
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      21-11-2008, 03:28 AM
In article <(E-Mail Removed)>, (E-Mail Removed) says...
> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:05:15 -0700, "Buffalo" <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> >[snip]
> >

>
> >Why don't you try the latest MBAM and see what it finds? You don't have to
> >delete anything you find, as you well know.
> >Post back with the results (the log).
> >Hell, it won't cost you anything and it could benefit others.
> >Buffalo
> >

> I did download the latest version. When I tried updating, it told me
> I had the latest update.
>
> It, and all it's parts, are history since I reloaded a prior image
> back onto my C: drive.
>
> As far as I know, my comp is in fine shape. The Sunbelt firewall,
> along with Kaspersky and Spybot have not once warned me of a problem.
> My comp doesn't act strangely, nor does my firewall let anything out
> or in except the programs I'm using. Everything else is blocked. If
> there were something, wrong, I'd be experiencing strange happenings. I
> ain't. So, I'm not worried about it - no matter what some junkware
> proggy says is wrong.
>
> Until my comp starts showing problems, I'll believe it and my own
> judgment.


And if you check with other tools, since you stated MBAM found
something, you are likely to find out that your Personal Firewall and
your other lack of understanding have left you compromised.

I was on a compromised PC two days ago, nothing the user could tell -
the only way to spot it was a registry entry that kept recreating
itself. MBAM, KAS, SAS, Symantec Corp, McAfee, Sophos, nothing could
remove it, but there were no visible (to the operator) signs of it and
what it was doing. I cloned a known clean machine to that drive and it's
running fine.

So, again, your computer was compromised, you restored and image, you
appear to be unwilling to learn if the restored image was also
compromised.....

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AMUN
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      21-11-2008, 04:31 AM


(E-Mail Removed) wrote:
> I tried their trial anti maleware program. The dang thing tagged a
> whole bunch of window files as being infected with a trojan. When I
> allowed it to "disinfect" the dang files, it screwed up a lot of
> Window XP files. When I rebooted I kept getting error messages about
> incorrect Window image files. Luckily, I always backup with Acronis
> True Image before using new programs. This habit saved my comp from
> disaster.
>
> So much for Malwarebytes crap.



I tend to agree with the other posters who say the malware messed things up,
and malwarebytes just told you how bad things were.
This may be a case of "shooting the messenger".

No anti-malware/virus application will ever be perfect, and restore a
totally messed up system with one keystroke.
But there would be a lot more complaints here, if it was trashing clean
systems.


 
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Book 'em Dan'O'
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      21-11-2008, 05:09 PM
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>I tried their trial anti maleware program. The dang thing tagged a
> whole bunch of window files as being infected with a trojan. When I
> allowed it to "disinfect" the dang files, it screwed up a lot of
> Window XP files. When I rebooted I kept getting error messages about
> incorrect Window image files. Luckily, I always backup with Acronis
> True Image before using new programs. This habit saved my comp from
> disaster.
>
> So much for Malwarebytes crap.



You are a liar. If it tagged your system files as being Trojans then it
would do the same to all of us, which it has never done.

 
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