PC Defender in System Restore

Whilst having problems with a series of BSODs over the last couple of days,
I had a look in system restore with the mad thought in mind that at some
point it could help but mainly with the intention to check to see if I can
restore at any point during the 100 Software Distribution Service 3 entries
since Feb 24 2010.
Going back through all points, I was surprised that there were only 4 check
points and to my horror I saw that PC Defender had been installed on March
24.
If this is that rogue one that has been of interest for a while, then I
could find no trace in my system - probably too well hidden - but I have
done countless scans with MS Security Essentials, MBAM,SAS and a couple of
on-liners a couple of times since then. But I have read that it is a sod to
find and remove.
I cannot think what else it could be - apart from updates, nothing else has
been installed on the computer and I certainly have had no pop-ups with any
virus warnings. MBAM/SAS have removed some minor stuff on the odd occasion.

Reading recent probs with this SDS, I am aware that some have had problems
doing a SR prior to one of these entries.
My laptop has about 20 SDS enties and twice as many check points over the
same period.

Providing I can keep my computer stable, I was wondering if it worth trying
a system restore to a point just prior to this suspect rogue install or best
left to just drop out in time.

Rgds
Antioch

From: "antioch" <(E-Mail Removed)>

| Whilst having problems with a series of BSODs over the last couple of days,
| I had a look in system restore with the mad thought in mind that at some
| point it could help but mainly with the intention to check to see if I can
| restore at any point during the 100 Software Distribution Service 3 entries
| since Feb 24 2010.
| Going back through all points, I was surprised that there were only 4 check
| points and to my horror I saw that PC Defender had been installed on March
| 24.
| If this is that rogue one that has been of interest for a while, then I
| could find no trace in my system - probably too well hidden - but I have
| done countless scans with MS Security Essentials, MBAM,SAS and a couple of
| on-liners a couple of times since then. But I have read that it is a sod to
| find and remove.
| I cannot think what else it could be - apart from updates, nothing else has
| been installed on the computer and I certainly have had no pop-ups with any
| virus warnings. MBAM/SAS have removed some minor stuff on the odd occasion.

| Reading recent probs with this SDS, I am aware that some have had problems
| doing a SR prior to one of these entries.
| My laptop has about 20 SDS enties and twice as many check points over the
| same period.

| Providing I can keep my computer stable, I was wondering if it worth trying
| a system restore to a point just prior to this suspect rogue install or best
| left to just drop out in time.

BSoD conditions can be caused by software and hardware. Restoring to a previosu restore
point may not be the solution if the BSoD is caused by hardware.

You need to research the exact cause of the BSoD first.
What is the exaxt NT Stop error ?
What are HEX codes generated ?


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
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> From: "antioch" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>
> | Whilst having problems with a series of BSODs over the last couple of
> days,
> | I had a look in system restore with the mad thought in mind that at some
> | point it could help but mainly with the intention to check to see if I
> can
> | restore at any point during the 100 Software Distribution Service 3
> entries
> | since Feb 24 2010.
> | Going back through all points, I was surprised that there were only 4
> check
> | points and to my horror I saw that PC Defender had been installed on
> March
> | 24.
> | If this is that rogue one that has been of interest for a while, then I
> | could find no trace in my system - probably too well hidden - but I have
> | done countless scans with MS Security Essentials, MBAM,SAS and a couple
> of
> | on-liners a couple of times since then. But I have read that it is a
> sod to
> | find and remove.
> | I cannot think what else it could be - apart from updates, nothing else
> has
> | been installed on the computer and I certainly have had no pop-ups with
> any
> | virus warnings. MBAM/SAS have removed some minor stuff on the odd
> occasion.
>
> | Reading recent probs with this SDS, I am aware that some have had
> problems
> | doing a SR prior to one of these entries.
> | My laptop has about 20 SDS enties and twice as many check points over
> the
> | same period.
>
> | Providing I can keep my computer stable, I was wondering if it worth
> trying
> | a system restore to a point just prior to this suspect rogue install or
> best
> | left to just drop out in time.
>
> BSoD conditions can be caused by software and hardware. Restoring to a
> previosu restore
> point may not be the solution if the BSoD is caused by hardware.
>
> You need to research the exact cause of the BSoD first.
> What is the exaxt NT Stop error ?
> What are HEX codes generated ?
>
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
>
>

Hello Dave
Thanks for coming in on this - but at the moment it is difficult to say if
its a HDD/or a nasty causing this. I have had different results with
chkdsk.
Waiting to find out what to scan with from the Maxtor forum.
If I may, and to avoid repeating all, please take a look at my thread in XP
General - BSOD-Unmountable & others 25 May 2010 - 23:56.
I have had at least 6 different stop error codes over a two day period.
I dont know 'what are hex codes generated?' I have not mentioned them.

Antioch

From: "Antioch" <(E-Mail Removed)>


| Hello Dave
| Thanks for coming in on this - but at the moment it is difficult to say if
| its a HDD/or a nasty causing this. I have had different results with
| chkdsk.
| Waiting to find out what to scan with from the Maxtor forum.
| If I may, and to avoid repeating all, please take a look at my thread in XP
| General - BSOD-Unmountable & others 25 May 2010 - 23:56.
| I have had at least 6 different stop error codes over a two day period.
| I dont know 'what are hex codes generated?' I have not mentioned them.

| Antioch

Hardware.

Run hard disk diagnostic from vendor check RAM.


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:enx9odY$(E-Mail Removed)...
> From: "Antioch" <(E-Mail Removed)>
>
>
> | Hello Dave
> | Thanks for coming in on this - but at the moment it is difficult to say
> if
> | its a HDD/or a nasty causing this. I have had different results with
> | chkdsk.
> | Waiting to find out what to scan with from the Maxtor forum.
> | If I may, and to avoid repeating all, please take a look at my thread in
> XP
> | General - BSOD-Unmountable & others 25 May 2010 - 23:56.
> | I have had at least 6 different stop error codes over a two day period.
> | I dont know 'what are hex codes generated?' I have not mentioned them.
>
> | Antioch
>
> Hardware.
>
> Run hard disk diagnostic from vendor check RAM.
>
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp
>
>
As above - waiting for info from the Seagate/Maxtor as to appropriate tool
with which to diagnose.

Rgds
Antioch

"Antioch" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> [...] waiting for info from the Seagate/Maxtor as to appropriate tool
> with which to diagnose.

While you're there, you might want to check out "MaxBlast" if they still
offer it.

On 05/27/2010 07:42 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
> "Antioch" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>> [...] waiting for info from the Seagate/Maxtor as to appropriate tool
>> with which to diagnose.
>
> While you're there, you might want to check out "MaxBlast" if they still
> offer it.
>
>

PowerMax if your going Maxtor; testdisk, hdat2, mhdd, and several
others provide various tests and diagnostics, and/or Seagate Seatools
since Maxtor is now Seagate.

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From: "Antioch" <(E-Mail Removed)>



| As above - waiting for info from the Seagate/Maxtor as to appropriate tool
| with which to diagnose.

SeaGate -- SeaTools

Generate a CDROM from their ISO image and boot from it and check your disk.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

"FromTheRafters" <erratic @nomail.afraid.org> wrote in message
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> "Antioch" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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>
>> [...] waiting for info from the Seagate/Maxtor as to appropriate tool
>> with which to diagnose.
>
> While you're there, you might want to check out "MaxBlast" if they still
> offer it.
>
Yes MaxBlast is on their site with full info how to use etc.
Thanks

Antioch

"MEB" <MEB-not-(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> On 05/27/2010 07:42 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
>> "Antioch" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
>> news:%23LlvL%23Y$(E-Mail Removed)...
>>
>>> [...] waiting for info from the Seagate/Maxtor as to appropriate tool
>>> with which to diagnose.
>>
>> While you're there, you might want to check out "MaxBlast" if they still
>> offer it.
>>
>>
>
> PowerMax if your going Maxtor; testdisk, hdat2, mhdd, and several
> others provide various tests and diagnostics, and/or Seagate Seatools
> since Maxtor is now Seagate.
>
> --
> MEB
> http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
> Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
> http://peoplescounsel.org
> The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
> ___---

Yes, the PowerMax is also there as well as Seatools - that's why I am
waiting for help in their forum.

Antioch