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Cadfael
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      10-12-2003, 05:55 AM
I've tried ad-aware, spy sweeper, but can't get rid of
doubleclick.net. I have a hosts file installed.

See my netstat screen dump:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/simplicool/netstat.bmp


how do I manually rip this thing's throat out?
 
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Jeff N.
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      10-12-2003, 06:13 AM
I just put the damn thing in the Restricted Zone in IE. Internet
Options/Security/Restricted Sites/Sites and enter *://*.doubleclick.net
You'll never see it again.

Cadfael wrote:
> I've tried ad-aware, spy sweeper, but can't get rid of
> doubleclick.net. I have a hosts file installed.
>
> See my netstat screen dump:
>
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/simplicool/netstat.bmp
>
>
> how do I manually rip this thing's throat out?



 
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YoKenny
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      10-12-2003, 10:05 AM
Jeff N. wrote:
> I just put the damn thing in the Restricted Zone in IE. Internet
> Options/Security/Restricted Sites/Sites and enter
> *://*.doubleclick.net You'll never see it again.


Even better is to install and keep updated IE-SPYAD:
http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~ehowes/resource.htm#IESPYAD

> Cadfael wrote:
>> I've tried ad-aware, spy sweeper, but can't get rid of
>> doubleclick.net. I have a hosts file installed.
>>
>> See my netstat screen dump:
>>
>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/simplicool/netstat.bmp
>>
>>
>> how do I manually rip this thing's throat out?


 
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Dawn Killick
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      10-12-2003, 03:03 PM

"Cadfael" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:(E-Mail Removed) m...
> I've tried ad-aware, spy sweeper, but can't get rid of
> doubleclick.net. I have a hosts file installed.
>
> See my netstat screen dump:
>
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/simplicool/netstat.bmp
>
>
> how do I manually rip this thing's throat out?


newbie question: it's an interesting screen dump but what does it mean?

I've run the netstat command here and also get a load of "listening" lines
but they're all listening to dell:0

dell is my system's name fwiw


 
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*Vanguard*
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      10-12-2003, 04:32 PM
"Jeff N." wrote
in news:mQyBb.174168$(E-Mail Removed):
> I just put the damn thing in the Restricted Zone in IE. Internet
> Options/Security/Restricted Sites/Sites and enter
> *://*.doubleclick.net You'll never see it again.
>
> Cadfael wrote:
>> I've tried ad-aware, spy sweeper, but can't get rid of
>> doubleclick.net. I have a hosts file installed.
>>
>> See my netstat screen dump:
>>
>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/simplicool/netstat.bmp
>>
>>
>> how do I manually rip this thing's throat out?


The problem with using the Restricted Sites security zone is that even
with all settings at the maximum most restrictiveness, you are still not
stopped from visiting those sites nor are links to those sites going to
stop you from visiting them. Just because "*://*.doubleclick.net/"
(along with some 9 other domains" is listed in Restricted Sites doesn't
stop from actually making a connection to there. After adding the
aforementioned URL into Restricted Sites, I can still go to
http://www.doubleclick.com/. Yeah, a lot of functionality can be
thwarted from the site but you are not actually barring access to that
site.

For example, although you have listed the Doubleclick URLs in the
Restricted Sites security zone, you can still go to www.cheaptickets.com
and click on any of its links to open that page okay. Those links go
through, for example, http://ad.doubleclick.net/<parms>, so your clicks
and navigation can still be tracked. Think of pushing a tree limb
through a pipe just big enough for the tree limb but not all the
branches attached to it. Yeah, you'll shear off all the branches but
the tree limb still goes through. Similarly, none of the security zones
will block images so you are still susceptible to web bugs in
HTML-formatted e-mails. To get rid of the web bugs, you need an e-mail
filter that strips out the linked images in HTML e-mails (embedded, or
inline, images are okay) unless, I suppose, you configure IE to not show
images at all no matter what security zone.

I would prefer NOTHING of Doubleclick, atdmt.com, X10, Fastclick, and
others be allowed for connects, not just the somewhat limited list of
restrictions specified in the Restricted Sites security zone. The
Restricted Sites security zone does NOT prevent a connection to those
sites. It just restricts what HTML functionality can be exercised AFTER
a connection is made to those site. To fully ban any access to those
sites, use URL filtering in a firewall.


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Jeff N.
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      10-12-2003, 05:11 PM
Thanks for the info, I'll look into it. I tend to stay away from large
lists of sorts that may not be applicable to my normal surfing habits in
fear of slowing down this AMD Abacus processor even more, but may check it
out.

YoKenny wrote:
> Jeff N. wrote:
>> I just put the damn thing in the Restricted Zone in IE. Internet
>> Options/Security/Restricted Sites/Sites and enter
>> *://*.doubleclick.net You'll never see it again.

>
> Even better is to install and keep updated IE-SPYAD:
> http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~ehowes/resource.htm#IESPYAD
>
>> Cadfael wrote:
>>> I've tried ad-aware, spy sweeper, but can't get rid of
>>> doubleclick.net. I have a hosts file installed.
>>>
>>> See my netstat screen dump:
>>>
>>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/simplicool/netstat.bmp
>>>
>>>
>>> how do I manually rip this thing's throat out?



 
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Jeff N.
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      10-12-2003, 05:21 PM
Thanks for all the info, I mainly just never wanted to see their cookies
anymore, but may look into transfering all the sites from my Restricted
zone list to URL filtering at the firewall level. I like to block all I
can, but get tired of hassling with it when certain gaming sites the family
insists upon going, won't work with HOSTS file entries or such.


*Vanguard* wrote:
> "Jeff N." wrote
> in news:mQyBb.174168$(E-Mail Removed):
>> I just put the damn thing in the Restricted Zone in IE. Internet
>> Options/Security/Restricted Sites/Sites and enter
>> *://*.doubleclick.net You'll never see it again.
>>
>> Cadfael wrote:
>>> I've tried ad-aware, spy sweeper, but can't get rid of
>>> doubleclick.net. I have a hosts file installed.
>>>
>>> See my netstat screen dump:
>>>
>>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/simplicool/netstat.bmp
>>>
>>>
>>> how do I manually rip this thing's throat out?

>
> The problem with using the Restricted Sites security zone is that even
> with all settings at the maximum most restrictiveness, you are still
> not stopped from visiting those sites nor are links to those sites
> going to stop you from visiting them. Just because
> "*://*.doubleclick.net/" (along with some 9 other domains" is listed
> in Restricted Sites doesn't stop from actually making a connection to
> there. After adding the aforementioned URL into Restricted Sites, I
> can still go to http://www.doubleclick.com/. Yeah, a lot of
> functionality can be thwarted from the site but you are not actually
> barring access to that site.
>
> For example, although you have listed the Doubleclick URLs in the
> Restricted Sites security zone, you can still go to
> www.cheaptickets.com and click on any of its links to open that page
> okay. Those links go through, for example,
> http://ad.doubleclick.net/<parms>, so your clicks and navigation can
> still be tracked. Think of pushing a tree limb through a pipe just
> big enough for the tree limb but not all the branches attached to it.
> Yeah, you'll shear off all the branches but the tree limb still goes
> through. Similarly, none of the security zones will block images so
> you are still susceptible to web bugs in HTML-formatted e-mails. To
> get rid of the web bugs, you need an e-mail filter that strips out
> the linked images in HTML e-mails (embedded, or inline, images are
> okay) unless, I suppose, you configure IE to not show images at all
> no matter what security zone.
>
> I would prefer NOTHING of Doubleclick, atdmt.com, X10, Fastclick, and
> others be allowed for connects, not just the somewhat limited list of
> restrictions specified in the Restricted Sites security zone. The
> Restricted Sites security zone does NOT prevent a connection to those
> sites. It just restricts what HTML functionality can be exercised
> AFTER a connection is made to those site. To fully ban any access to
> those sites, use URL filtering in a firewall.



 
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SJL
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      10-12-2003, 07:18 PM
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 06:13:38 GMT, "Jeff N."
<(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

>I just put the damn thing in the Restricted Zone in IE. Internet
>Options/Security/Restricted Sites/Sites and enter *://*.doubleclick.net
>You'll never see it again.


Hi Jeff,

Long-time no see

Have a look at this, MVP approved!

http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/restricted.htm

Regards,


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YoKenny
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      10-12-2003, 07:25 PM
Jeff N. wrote:
> Thanks for the info, I'll look into it. I tend to stay away from
> large lists of sorts that may not be applicable to my normal surfing
> habits in fear of slowing down this AMD Abacus processor even more,
> but may check it out.


IE-SPYAD does not impact system performance. In fact it can improve
Internet connection speed because some requests to additional sites are
blocked.

> YoKenny wrote:
>> Jeff N. wrote:
>>> I just put the damn thing in the Restricted Zone in IE. Internet
>>> Options/Security/Restricted Sites/Sites and enter
>>> *://*.doubleclick.net You'll never see it again.

>>
>> Even better is to install and keep updated IE-SPYAD:
>> http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~ehowes/resource.htm#IESPYAD
>>
>>> Cadfael wrote:
>>>> I've tried ad-aware, spy sweeper, but can't get rid of
>>>> doubleclick.net. I have a hosts file installed.
>>>>
>>>> See my netstat screen dump:
>>>>
>>>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/simplicool/netstat.bmp
>>>>
>>>> how do I manually rip this thing's throat out?


 
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Jeff N.
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      10-12-2003, 10:06 PM
Hi Silj, I've been busy with other projects, but still glance at various
groups daily. Thanks for the link, although I'm sure I got it bookmarked,
but appears to be updated.

It seems to me you could spend a good portion of every day to keep up with
the current privacy issues and how to block the unwanted, but I'd rather be
doing something more enlightening! There are so many different ways to keep
the unwanted at bay, I just don't care to spend all day seeing what I like
best.

I currently use AdMuncher to block unwanted banner ads and popups and seems
to do an excellent job. Not sure if it's completely refusing connections to
specific IP's though. I don't care to use ZAPro's privacy, filtering, or ad
blocking. Hosts file caused trouble with some java sites, so without
fussing with that, I just tossed it.

I keep a pretty secure browser, (as secure as IE can be...hehe), and don't
care for any other browsers. I think the main thing that I don't want
happening is any pointless connections slowing what limited bandwidth I
have.


SJL wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 06:13:38 GMT, "Jeff N."
> <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> I just put the damn thing in the Restricted Zone in IE. Internet
>> Options/Security/Restricted Sites/Sites and enter
>> *://*.doubleclick.net You'll never see it again.

>
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Long-time no see
>
> Have a look at this, MVP approved!
>
> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/restricted.htm
>
> Regards,



 
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